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My F150 tailgate sits at 35" and the step is at 22", and I'll admit it's handy with that bed height. It also makes the tailgate much heavier and more expensive. The Slate tailgate looks to sit about even with the top of the bumper sides. Those are noticeably below the tops of the ~29"...

You mean exactly like Slate has publicly stated, and been discussed here previously, must be done to remove them on Slate too? Just because you can see fasteners, doesn't mean you can see ALL the fasteners.

It's interesting and I appreciate the effort. I'm curious what the motivations for constraining it to fitting inside a closed tailgate comes from? Tailgate down, or removed entirely, opens up 1-piece shell options.

The 'technically more correct' term is aluminum alloy. But since any metal that is not commercially pure is technically an 'alloy', if you're going to drop one of the words for brevity, it is more functionally descriptive to drop the word alloy and keep the base material name (aluminum) instead...

Yeah, you're right. A full size screen definitely makes it easier to spot. Sometimes it's better to be working with equipment bigger than 6 inches.

:idea: Ohhhhhhh... So when you said 'hub' you meant wheel, and when you said 'wheel' you meant tire. That makes so much more sense! Thanks for the additional clarification. I was so focused on trying to see what was wrong with the hub in the wheel that I wasn't even seeing the wheel in the...

So apparently as the equal and opposite of people with nothing to actually contribute to a subject resorting to posting AI summaries about it, now we've got people with no actual knowledge of a subject resorting to posting 'AI' accusations about it... :facepalm: Everything on the Slate site is...

"This video makes me angry!" in 3... 2... 1...

This is NOT from Ford. It's pure fantasy from insideevs.com.

1) Slate has job postings that don't seem to be closing. 2) This could mean multiple things on the bad-good spectrum. 3) Ghost jobs have become a common practice by existing corporate ('BS in BS postings') HR ('deception') departments. 4) This is one possible 'not good' explanation for (1)...

I'm guessing those 'couple of pickups' were all body on frame? Slate is not, which makes it a while nother can of worms.

Oh, I remember Paul Elio. :CWL: I liked the general concept, and understood why people wanted to believe in his vision. While I was never sure if he was completely delusional or just a con artist, in other words genuinely believed his own BS or not, he was an obvious fraud from day one. So...

Just some light-hearted fun to keep it from getting too stuffy around here.

Off-roading that requires low-range 4WD? No way! :eek:

I'm as concerned about this as I am about them actually delivering to customers by the end of 2026... Not. At. All. :cool:

Amount of snowfall is not the main thing that gives AWD value, snow covered direction and elevation change is. I've daily driven a Miata in the worst Green Bay winter for 100+ years, loving every minute of it, and driven a Sentra 100+ of miles out of Chicago on roads mostly covered by a solid...

F150, Ram 1500, Ranger, Colorado, and Tacoma all disagree.

Educated consumers like you'll find on this site are in the minority, and would generally be shocked at how most people buy cars: Wandering into a dealership brand showroom selected on some whim, with no real product knowledge and little prior thought put into their needs, wants, or finances...

You bring up a good point. How much it *should* cost is entirely perception based on how much value it adds to each individual. That's about all I'd pay for it too. How much it needs to cost, and where that intersects how muc people will pay for it, is another matter all together. Once AWD is...