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  1. Driven5

    If the Slate PU came only as an ICE, I would buy one.

    Comparing well-to-tank of EV to tank-to-wheels of ICE has zero logical or rational basis. Well-to-wheels is ~50% (30%-70% depending on location) better for EV than ICE. Greater load on a part does not make it more likely to fail when it was equivalently engineered for that load.
  2. Driven5

    Slate towing trailer (video) -- 104 degrees heat, 3500 ft grade

    Good eye! :clap: That's interesting though, as it would also mean they did the test noticeably above their stated tow rating... So they're either doing that for an additional safety factor or considering upping the rating a couple hundred pounds. In addition to the possibility of some rampless...
  3. Driven5

    Slate towing trailer (video) -- 104 degrees heat, 3500 ft grade

    1) Tire and fender proportions. 2) Extra vertical supports on the front. 3) The Davis Dam test is a technical tow rating requirement. For their stated tow rating goal, an obviously empty 5x8 meet the test requirements while an obviously empty 4x7 would be meaningelss.
  4. Driven5

    Slate towing trailer (video) -- 104 degrees heat, 3500 ft grade

    The Davis Dam test is run at Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR). This means the maximum combination of payload and towing. That's a 5x8 U-Haul trailer, which is right at their 1,000 pound tow rating. The sandbags are to get the rest of the way to GCWR. On the one hand, they successfully passed...
  5. Driven5

    Jeff Bezos's $25,000 EV Truck Has One Fatal Flaw • Jeff Jablansky | MotoMan Podcast 006

    I find the topics around here less challenging than the willful ignorance. I have not seen it stated that some color pigments are more prone to 'color' degradation than others. What has been stated is that preventing UV degradation* requires UV stabilizers. What that means is materials like...
  6. Driven5

    If the Slate PU came only as an ICE, I would buy one.

    Yes... But the cost to develop and set up production for just a single modern emissions compliant engine family from scratch, not even including the transmission, is in the hundreds-of-millions of dollars... So like at least 50% of their entire fundraising so far. The only realistic ICE option...
  7. Driven5

    Jeff Bezos's $25,000 EV Truck Has One Fatal Flaw • Jeff Jablansky | MotoMan Podcast 006

    Polypropylene is naturally an undesirable milky white and NOT naturally UV resistant. The UV stabilizing additives will also affect color pigmentation. So not only does each additional color require unique formulation to achieve equivalent properties, it may not even be possible to achieve it in...
  8. Driven5

    If the Slate PU came only as an ICE, I would buy one.

    I still have many concerns about the costly environmental impact of nearly every aspect of modern society too, including even the 'best' solutions we have readily available so far. But all I can do is make the best decisions we can with the information available to us at the time. Thankfully...
  9. Driven5

    Poll on what kind of vehicle you want

    Similarly... https://www.slateforums.com/forum/threads/what-is-slate-competing-with-for-your-money.13345/ For me it's: "RWD fun commuter" :rock:
  10. Driven5

    If the Slate PU came only as an ICE, I would buy one.

    "...But for only $5/day more, on the 8 year loan, you could have this $10k more expensive one instead." There is certainly a segment that would prefer Slate as an ICEV over an EV. But it seems to me that more people interested in Slate as an ICEV would still buy it as an EV, than people...
  11. Driven5

    Jeff Bezos's $25,000 EV Truck Has One Fatal Flaw • Jeff Jablansky | MotoMan Podcast 006

    On the one hand, even the low end of skilled labor gets billed at $150-$200+ per labor hour. I'm doubtful that Slate has only 1 person working the wrap when they do it in an hour, they've got all of the pre-install prep work done that isn't getting counted there, and it still doesn't come out...
  12. Driven5

    Jeff Bezos's $25,000 EV Truck Has One Fatal Flaw • Jeff Jablansky | MotoMan Podcast 006

    All of the hand wringing about AWD and 4 doors is completely missing the plot. Targeting the biggest markets from the start may sound smart, but is ultimately a fools errand. The most crowded markets are also the most difficult to successfully break into, even for established manufacturers...
  13. Driven5

    Slate: The Everything Truck (Fortune Interview)

    "That comparison should be to a Maverick or a Santa Cruz" = "some arbitrary market segment definition."
  14. Driven5

    Slate: The Everything Truck (Fortune Interview)

    Most people looking at Maverick do so because it is a hybrid that happens to have a bed, not because it is a truck that happens to be a hybrid. So the typical comparison of Maverick to Santa Cruz and Ranger is largely BS. Most people looking at Slate do so because it is an EV that happens to...
  15. Driven5

    Inside EVs: I Saw The Affordable Slate Truck In Person. Now I’m Worried

    That's less than 1/10 of what RAV4 sold in the same period, and less than any year of Mustang has ever sold in its entire 60 year history. Considering 7 is an order of magnitude more accurate mathematical approximation of 44k (in automotive terms) than 'a gazillion', don't be too quick to throw...
  16. Driven5

    Slate Autocross Eligibility

    What is better for raw times is not necessarily better for raw fun. Why? We're not talking open track use. From the system standpoint, an EV is experiencing a few multi-second bursts of WOT, separated by a handful of couple second or less sharp braking events and a bunch of part throttle, over...
  17. Driven5

    Ford’s $30,000 Answer to Slate’s EV Truck is Apparently Not Really A Pickup

    Sounds a bit bigger than I want, but I was starting to become intrigued by the RWD/performance focus... Right up until he said " it has a digital experience that no one’s seen— even in China." So like Sync, but worse? :headbang:
  18. Driven5

    Inside EVs: I Saw The Affordable Slate Truck In Person. Now I’m Worried

    I didn't realize 'a gazillion' could mean seven. :giggle:
  19. Driven5

    Slate Autocross Eligibility

    I agree with being able properly turn traction and stability control off, without them re-engaging regardless of how it's being driven. In addition to autox, I'd also like try hitting up the local drift club too. Like most cars, Slate has a traction control button on the dash. Generally press...
  20. Driven5

    Slate Autocross Eligibility

    Oh, and for the record: That extraordinary bit of driving in the linked video is very much NOT me. :CWL:
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