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I'm skeptical about these claims that it's that much shorter than my Maverick. But if it is, I'll run, not walk to the dealership to buy one.
Agreed. I think whoever made these size estimates is not very good at math. I thought someone had done a size estimate several weeks ago and it landed at 195 or so overall length. I would be more inclined to believe that. The narrowness is more unbelievable than the length. No way that cab can be as roomy as a RAV4 with a 60 inch width. That quoted width is a foot narrower than a Maverick which is wider than a Slate.
 

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Agreed. I think whoever made these size estimates is not very good at math. I thought someone had done a size estimate several weeks ago and it landed at 195 or so overall length. I would be more inclined to believe that. The narrowness is more unbelievable than the length. No way that cab can be as roomy as a RAV4 with a 60 inch width. That quoted width is a foot narrower than a Maverick which is wider than a Slate.
I’m coming from Honda Fit, and three Acura Integra’s, so most any other vehicle for my “husky” wide volume body would be pretty roomy.
It’ll be interesting to see the actual length, and could be a psyop for the maths on the size for folks on the fence with the Ford/Slate comparison (adjusted foil hat). Let’s see how long it takes for Ford to release the numbers.
 
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Supposedly 181 inches long, 62 inches wide (they credited folks doing table side math), Slates 174.6 inches. Maverick is 199.8 inches.
I’ve heard before as roomy as RAV4, I’ve been in a 2025 RAV4 and it’s roomy.
I've already seen some auto journalists trying to do rough math on the UEV inconclusively.
https://www.theautopian.com/heres-o...ler-the-new-30k-ford-ev-is-than-the-maverick/

The Autopian crew guessed a length of 192.4-195" (ChatGPT provided multiple variations upon "over 20 feet long" from the same prompt) and a height of 64-66" (2-4" more than the supposed width). I think that table side math was just bad.

Finally, 300 miles on an LFP with ute aerodynamics means it's going to have a battery at least $3,000 more expensive than Slate's, there's no way they're hitting anything approaching $30k if many of those numbers are accurate.
The Ford is going to have better aero than the Slate. Ford's team made a point of going all-out on any extra range they could find, where the Slate has less emphasis on range, a boxy shape, and constraints like the wrap-friendly geometry.

Direct cost comparisons don't work because Slate is a startup, and Ford is a vertically-integrated, established automaker with more negotiating power for commodities like batteries.

For any given price, Ford can easily offer "more car" (range, size, features, performance) than Slate, which is one of the reasons Slate is smart to be offering "less car" overall.

That being said, I definitely don't believe they're going to hit a flat $30K on the starting price, and I believe whatever they do hit will be moved further off in practice after dealerships, etc.
 

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Finally, 300 miles on an LFP with ute aerodynamics means it's going to have a battery at least $3,000 more expensive than Slate's, there's no way they're hitting anything approaching $30k if many of those numbers are accurate.
I've listened to several interviews with Alan Clarke. I don't think it is accurate to quote Alan saying customers expect or demand 300 miles of range. What I recall him saying was that SOME customers expect 300 miles of range and that configuration will be available to them. I don't think the 300 mile range version is going to be LFP nor is it going to be $30k. The $30k will be a lower range LFP truck similar to the Slate.
 

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I've listened to several interviews with Alan Clarke. I don't think it is accurate to quote Alan saying customers expect or demand 300 miles of range. What I recall him saying was that SOME customers expect 300 miles of range and that configuration will be available to them. I don't think the 300 mile range version is going to be LFP nor is it going to be $30k. The $30k will be a lower range LFP truck similar to the Slate.
Exactly.
Ford has stated that it would start around 30k, but when have they last met one of those kind of quotes on an upcoming vehicle?
They have maybe stated "Up to" 300 mile range, but that doesn't mean the 30k truck has 300 mile range. That might be the planned for just guessing 45k base price extended range version, which also might end up higher by launch.
 

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62 inch width would make it skinnier than a Chevy Spark. 8" skinnier than Slate, which is already smaller than a RAV4. If it's as roomy length-wise as a RAV4 inside, and only 7 inches longer than Slate, then the truck bed can only be cosmetic. But the truck bed looks like it's at least 4' long, so they must be pulling Tardis-style "It's bigger on the inside" tricks.

Or it's not actually that big on the inside and not actually that small on the outside.

Finally, 300 miles on an LFP with ute aerodynamics means it's going to have a battery at least $3,000 more expensive than Slate's, there's no way they're hitting anything approaching $30k if many of those numbers are accurate.

Ford's history proves they can't be trusted. It's all just marketing lies at this point.
No possible way Ford’s 51 kWh battery is going to produce a range exceeding 200+ miles. That would require Tesla Model 3 efficiency. Not possible. Great target marketing to put doubt in the minds of consumers thinking about buying a Slate.
 

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No possible way Ford’s 51 kWh battery is going to produce a range exceeding 200+ miles. That would require Tesla Model 3 efficiency. Not possible. Great target marketing to put doubt in the minds of consumers thinking about buying a Slate.
It's been pointed out elsewhere that while they have said starting around 30k, and separately said up to 300 mile range, those two options must be exclusive. The bare bones 30k model will surely be significantly lower range, the long range model will surely be more than 30k.
 

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I tried to remove the black bra and camo wrap to get a better sense of the lines, but the result was pretty much the same. This Ford truck is quite bulky. To be fair, I applied the same camo to the Slate truck and a handsome Taco to see how they are impacted...

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I tried to remove the black bra and camo wrap to get a better sense of the lines, but the result was pretty much the same. This Ford truck is quite bulky. To be fair, I applied the same camo to the Slate truck and a handsome Taco to see how they are impacted...

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That Taco would look so much better without the extra (dumb) back doors...then add 1/2 to a foot more to the bed...

Seriously. Pickups (& SUV's) went bad when soccer-mom's got tired of mini-vans...wanted "big & powerful", thinking that meant "safety"? I dunno. Get an 'effin' Suburban for your family.

Safety is cool. I like that there are fewer traffic (percentage-wise) fatalities and injuries now than there was 40 years ago.

But? What did the reactionary policies of the 90's & 2000's miss?

Some of my best memories are from riding in the back of the farm-truck...wind blowing everything around. Camping trips out west in a pickup-camper...laying above the cab, watching the miles fly by.

(sorry i've gotten away from the actual topic...I suppose this belongs in another thread...just going with the flow now. :p )

I get the safety thing, I don't get the "bigger, better, drives like a luxury car" thing.

That is my main gripe against that which the "truck" has become. I've read enough articles & thought posts to ascertain that the industry really didn't follow the wishes of the populace when it comes to pickups.

I like that Slate (even though I'm not totally sold on the electric thing) seems to be trying to get back to "utility". I like that the "blank" has possibilities.
 
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That Taco would look so much better without the extra (dumb) back doors...then add 1/2 to a foot more to the bed...

Seriously. Pickups (& SUV's) went bad when soccer-mom's got tired of mini-vans...wanted "big & powerful", thinking that meant "safety"? I dunno. Get an 'effin' Suburban for your family.

Safety is cool. I like that there are fewer traffic (percentage-wise) fatalities and injuries now than there was 40 years ago.

But? What did the reactionary policies of the 90's & 2000's miss?

Some of my best memories are from riding in the back of the farm-truck...wind blowing everything around. Camping trips out west in a pickup-camper...laying above the cab, watching the miles fly by.

(sorry i've gotten away from the actual topic...I suppose this belongs in another thread...just going with the flow now. :p )

I get the safety thing, I don't get the "bigger, better, drives like a luxury car" thing.

That is my main gripe against that which the "truck" has become. I've read enough articles & thought posts to ascertain that the industry really didn't follow the wishes of the populace when it comes to pickups.

I like that Slate (even though I'm not totally sold on the electric thing) seems to be trying to get back to "utility". I like that the "blank" has possibilities.
I hope the Ford EV looks good. It is going in the same direction that Slate is heading. A world with more utility trucks is going to be fun!

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