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[Johnologue]

All interesting, but.. does it spy on you? (I bet it does.)

That's a feature, silly! Jim Farley loves his Xiaomi SUV, and he wants to share that experience with his fellow Americans.

Reminder: Ford is very proud of combining infotainment, ADAS, audio, and networking into one computer. In case I misunderstood what they meant by "one module"...well, this sure looks like one board for everything. That's what Ford is showing off. SiriusXM is touching your brakes. There's certainly some virtual containerization but I've seen nothing to indicate they're not sharing hardware.

 

[Freyar]

That's a feature, silly! Jim Farley loves his Xiaomi SUV, and he wants to share that experience with his fellow Americans.

Reminder: Ford is very proud of combining infotainment, ADAS, audio, and networking into one computer. In case I misunderstood what they meant by "one module"...well, this sure looks like one board for everything. That's what Ford is showing off. SiriusXM is touching your brakes. There's certainly some virtual containerization but I've seen nothing to indicate they're not sharing hardware.

Absolutely not. Critical components should be gapped entirely from non-critical and should stay that way, but what's worse is it means they can tie in all the data harvesting explicitly through this one platform, again a natural evolution into being a voyeuristic company that can't just leave you alone.

SiriusXM should have not just an software-based boundary/sandbox, but it should not be physically possible. Navigation, Radio, , etc. should NEVER be integrated with critical car components.


I hate this. It's the wrong way to go and just gets more invasive with every iteration. How is this not seen as a critical security and safety flaw?

 

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

Absolutely not. Critical components should be gapped entirely from non-critical and should stay that way

This is how the Cylons win. Only non-networked systems are secure.

 

[D’Roc]

My two Fords have been a new 1998 Ford Ranger and a new 2022 Ford Mach E. Both were great cars. My first BEV was a 2021 base RWD Taycan (which I sold after a year of ownership for $15K more than I paid because of crazy COVID times). Anyway I thought my next BEV after the Taycan was going to be an ID.4 but the Mach E was so much more fun to drive I went with it (I also drove a Model 3 but the 1PD only driving turned me off after the default “coasting” Taycan).

With that long monologue behind me, if the Ford actually comes in at a competitive price, the one with better driving dynamics is what I’ll likely go with. I’m hopeful about the SLATE’s driving dynamics as most reviews have used terms like “fun” but there was one SLATE review which described its performance in the corners as bouncy and uncontrolled.

I really need a test drive soon. 🤣😂😬

 

[whasupjohn]

I hate this. It's the wrong way to go and just gets more invasive with every iteration. How is this not seen as a critical security and safety flaw?

Preach on! The sole reason I’m getting the telematics is to see what is sent and what it costs (year to year). The best part, I can shut it off. I cannot stand this collection of data and the conclusions made from it. The major point with me is my car not being in my control.

I do plan to buy a full featured truck in the future and I do worry what it will reveal to the manufacturer, its partner/customer for my data. That stuff may have to just break until I have to go to dealer for service. I’m on the fence, but every owner should have the right to black box their vehicle.

 

[Freyar]

Preach on! The sole reason I’m getting the telematics is to see what is sent and what it costs (year to year). The best part, I can shut it off. I cannot stand this collection of data and the conclusions made from it. The major point with me is my car not being in my control.

I'll consider telematics once I know what's sent, how it works, how it's shared, etc. Being able to yoink it without potentially destroying anything makes it much more reasonable. That gives better control back to me.

Ford? [Expletive] their "give me your clothes, your truck, and your data" approach. They better sell that thing for $10k new.

 

[whasupjohn]

I'll consider telematics once I know what's sent, how it works, how it's shared, etc. Being able to yoink it without potentially destroying anything makes it much more reasonable. That gives better control back to me.

Ford? [Expletive] their "give me your clothes, your truck, and your data" approach. They better sell that thing for $10k new.

I plan to tap into the telematics and see if I can probe what data and IPs are involved. Anything wonky and I’ll raise hell.

 

[tubes]

This is how the Cylons win. Only non-networked systems are secure.

Farley alarmingly reminds me of Number Two (Leoben). On some days I'll watch an episode of BSG and swear it is becoming prophetic.

 

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