Cargo Kit / High Roof Cargo Kit / Options and Fleet Sales Update (from Slate Portland Demo Event)

[19SL80s]

If aerocovers can make that much of a range difference, I am now wondering what range penalty having the fender flares added would be.

Once we get these things we’ll have to put them through their paces. I foresee a lot of Slate videos in the future.

 

[EVfun]

You are on the right path. Fenders, flaps, racks, spare tire carriers…all add drag. If your use case demands 175 miles between charges…best be careful with the skinny pedal on the right.

I like EVs, but I'm going to be even more pessimistic here. If your regular daily needs require more than half of the EVs stated range you should consider another vehicle. I recommend looking for a longer range EV that suits your use if an EV is your goal, or a comparable hybrid, gas, or diesel vehicle if the budget is a bigger constraint.

Let my give my logic...

Bad weather -- needing a lot of heat or cooling, rain or snow increasing rolling resistance. These can easily reduce range by 20%.

On the other side, getting a replacement under warrantee generally requires the battery to drop down to 70% of its original capacity.

So, 205 miles times 80% and then times 70% comes out to a lower "expected" (IMHO) useable range of 115 miles. Half of the stated range would be 103 miles. It is always best to leave a little on the table.

 

[WV Slateman]

If aerocovers can make that much of a range difference, I am now wondering what range penalty having the fender flares added would be.

Yeah I really like the look, but it's probably not the best for range. Although if I'm just driving it locally I may not care, particularly when I'm prepaying for my fuel in the form of solar.😀

 

[Shibumi63]

You are on the right path. Fenders, flaps, racks, spare tire carriers…all add drag. If your use case demands 175 miles between charges…best be careful with the skinny pedal on the right.

I only take maybe 2 round trips a year beyond the comfortable range of the Slate. I like the look of the fender flares. I can simply remove them for one of the trips so I can compare the difference.

Another benefit of the design and easy of mods with the accessories.

 

[Shibumi63]

Yeah I really like the look, but it's probably not the best for range. Although if I'm just driving it locally I may not care, particularly when I'm prepaying for my fuel in the form of solar.😀

I am as well. I have enough solar production to fully offset my EV except for the long trips. PS, this will be my first EV. I'll keep the ICE for hurricane evacuations.

 

[Doctors Do Little]

I only take maybe 2 round trips a year beyond the comfortable range of the Slate. I like the look of the fender flares. I can simply remove them for one of the trips so I can compare the difference.

Another benefit of the design and easy of mods with the accessories.

Don’t get me wrong…I’ll commit every drag sin there is! Lift, AT, Racks, fenders, spares, running boards…all of it! Bc I don’t care a bit about range.

 

[Frozen North]

If aerocovers can make that much of a range difference, I am now wondering what range penalty having the fender flares added would be.

0 smiles per mile.

 

[danielt1263]

If your use case demands 175 miles between charges…

If your regular daily needs require more than half of the EVs stated range...

I find the above interesting. @Doctors Do Little said nothing about "daily needs" but it seems that @EVfun implicitly made the connection between "miles between charges" and "daily needs"... Because after all, EVs get charged at home every night in most cases.

I'm thinking more and more that range is something that "big oil" wants us to focus on because it's the one thing where ICE has an advantage. I mean, I agree with @EVfun, but who needs to drive more than 103 miles per day? That would be 37.6k miles per year.

There's lots of talk about the average, but even at the 75th percentile, we are only talking 20-22k miles per year (according to Google). That's 60 miles per day on average.

 

[KevinRS]

I find the above interesting. @Doctors Do Little said nothing about "daily needs" but it seems that @EVfun implicitly made the connection between "miles between charges" and "daily needs"... Because after all, EVs get charged at home every night in most cases.

I'm thinking more and more that range is something that "big oil" wants us to focus on because it's the one thing where ICE has an advantage. I mean, I agree with @EVfun, but who needs to drive more than 103 miles per day? That would be 37.6k miles per year.

There's lots of talk about the average, but even at the 75th percentile, we are only talking 20-22k miles per year (according to Google). That's 60 miles per day on average.

In my area, there are probably a significant number driving over 100 miles a day, round trip. It's a "supercommuter" area. My father for years had around 50 miles each way, and others have more. The higher paying jobs are where housing is also high, so people live farther from the jobs, and mountains in the way add like 30+ miles of distance.
So there are people who would have an issue with their daily commute.
But if I need to occasionally drive there with a Slate, I figure I'd just find a charger if needed and charge 15-20 minutes.

 

[Rocks]

The higher paying jobs are where housing is also high, so people live farther from the jobs

When I lived in Phoenix, we called this "drive until you qualify."

 

[Doctors Do Little]

I find the above interesting. @Doctors Do Little said nothing about "daily needs" but it seems that @EVfun implicitly made the connection between "miles between charges" and "daily needs"... Because after all, EVs get charged at home every night in most cases.

I'm thinking more and more that range is something that "big oil" wants us to focus on because it's the one thing where ICE has an advantage. I mean, I agree with @EVfun, but who needs to drive more than 103 miles per day? That would be 37.6k miles per year.

There's lots of talk about the average, but even at the 75th percentile, we are only talking 20-22k miles per year (according to Google). That's 60 miles per day on average.

Agree. My longest commute day is about 80 miles round trip. Do I care if my effective range is 170 miles bc of the extra crap I put on the truck and if I’m doing 75mph for most of those miles - one day per week? Nope and nope. Use case satisfied.
That will be me…smiling gratuitously.

 

[kvermeer]

In my area, there are probably a significant number driving over 100 miles a day, round trip. It's a "supercommuter" area. My father for years had around 50 miles each way, and others have more.

I commuted 52 miles each way for 5 years. 45 minutes on a dry day with no traffic, but there were days it took over 90 minutes in snow, traffic, and construction. It *sucked*, and I didn't realize just how much it sucked until I moved and got a new job 2.5 miles from home. It was like I suddenly had 25-26 hour days, and those extra hours were filled with family and bike rides to work and hobbies instead of dealing with the stress of other commuters.

 

[TheLichKing]

I mean, I agree with @EVfun, but who needs to drive more than 103 miles per day? That would be 37.6k miles per year.

ME. I'M JUST GOING TO USE MY ICE IN THE WINTER WHEN THE RANGE DROPS AND HOPE IT LASTS ENOUGH YEARS FOR A SIGNIFICANT BATTERY UPGRADE TO BECOME AVAILABLE EVENTUALLY.

 

[whasupjohn]

ME. I'M JUST GOING TO USE MY ICE IN THE WINTER WHEN THE RANGE DROPS AND HOPE IT LASTS ENOUGH YEARS FOR A SIGNIFICANT BATTERY UPGRADE TO BECOME AVAILABLE EVENTUALLY.

OKAY

 

[AZFox]

The strange practice of SHOUTING the company name using ALL-CAPS, which Slate doesn't do, is spreading to entire posts.

Resist capitalism!