Charge Curves, batteries and South Dakota dreaming.

[Garbone]

So I am currently rolling on an a road trip heading on a leg from San Francisco to Memphis via MT Rushmore.

Our 22' nmc small battery MachE gets about 236 miles full up at 70mph on flat ground.

Looking up skates lfp pack and not much info on that.

I think I may have been able to duplicate this trip in August but here are some catches.

South Dakota is a charging desert. Tesla NACs can not be used by non Tesla cars in the entire state. This leaves 2 large dc charger gaps on I-80 of 150 miles ish.

At the posted 80mph I do not think the Slate could do this gap at the posted Speed limit as it is similar in shape to a brick. We achieved these gaps in our MachE by catching to the mid 90s and tucking in behind semi trucks running about 75mph.

In winter I think SD would be impossible in a small pack Slate and nearly so in a small pack MachE. Due to cold weather range loss.

As a side note. Withe a 230 mile pack I run 120 miles between charges without concern and a decent charge experience. Once you start needing the bottom ten and top 20 percent of the pack things slow down a sigh igant amount. A 450 mile day with a early check in turns into a 450 mile day with a late check in. Takes away pool time, casual dining stops, basic vacation goofing around dies due to charger time suck.

 

[Moe]

From the Tesla app configured for a non-Tesla with adapter. It isn’t just SD.

 

[Ali]

Don't they have CCS chargers every 50 miles along both i-80 and i-90? Take a look in PlugShare.

 

[Garbone]

Nope. Leaving Walls there is nothing until Chamberlain. Chamberlain to Sioux Falls is pretty bad also. Gillette to rapid city has only 2 crap Chargepoints between at an RV resort.

 

[RevMS]

From the Tesla app configured for a non-Tesla with adapter. It isn’t just SD.

We're not going to have an adaptor though. With native NACS we should have full access to Tesla Superchargers.

 

[Moe]

We're not going to have an adaptor though. With native NACS we should have full access to Tesla Superchargers.

You don’t understand the Slate NACS port is no different than a CCS1 with NACS adapter. The issue is that v2 Superchargers don’t use the CCS protocol that NACS uses. They only use the proprietary protocol only Teslas use. They look the same as a CCS compatible v3 but the cable is thicker and has a silver metal ring between the plug and the cable. The Tesla app won’t show them as available to you. Only Teslas have full access to the whole Supercharger network.

 

[RevMS]

You don’t understand the Slate NACS port is no different than a CCS1 with NACS adapter. The issue is that v2 Superchargers don’t use the CCS protocol that NACS uses. They only use the proprietary protocol only Teslas use. They look the same as a CCS compatible v3 but the cable is thicker and has a silver metal ring between the plug and the cable. Only Teslas have full access to the whole Supercharger network.

Ah, gotcha. I wasn't aware of that.

 

[Moe]

Ah, gotcha. I wasn't aware of that.

Yep. If you’re staring at a row of Superchargers you don’t see in the Tesla app, that’s why.

 

[RevMS]

Yep. If you’re staring at a row of Superchargers you don’t see in the Tesla app, that’s why.

Since I'm driving a Model 3 now I never thought about it.

 

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

It doesn’t look as barren on Plugshare’s map, but it still ain’t great. Especially Wyoming 😬

I did NACS-only and filtered out old V1 stations that don’t work with non-Teslas.

Edit: There’s also one in Rapid City, Gillette, Buffalo and a couple other spots that don’t show up til you zoom in.