Not Slate, but EV related. I have a 2023 bolt ev. Right where the odometer it started to go black. I touched it and made it worse. Right now it is

[JustChris]

Primary control module is where the data is counted and stored. A diagnostic tool can still pull the correct value, and replacing the screen will restore your milage back to accurate reading. Might be a nightmare on a Bolt.

(I am not experienced with EVs, so there's a chance that all of this is wrong. 🤪)

 

[P99Guy]

Not sure without checking but i believe the cluster can be reset. If not, every single state in the U.S. Has an exception form or process that can follow the vehicle. I believe the OP may be in Indonesia where it may not matter. I would definitely go with a used part and file the exception paperwork. I suspect through the dealer it will be closer to $2000-$2500 to replace.

Edit - I see by the previous poster that the cluster goes blank so the dealer gets to make their money on a reset Even with a new cluster, so go used And save $$$$

 

[cadblu]

Hmm, in just 3 years and the screen fails? Displays are not considered a 'wear item' or related to mileage. I wonder it the OP can try seeking a warranty claim exception. The 2023 Bolt comes with a 3-year warranty on electrical systems which should cover the display.

 

[AeroWolf]

As others mentioned this is an LED screen problem related to either physical screen Module, but also potential software driver issue for the hardware .

The Slate could suffer similar problem with their LED cluster. I think this type of behavior is a potential screen issue for any LED monitor. Which is when an LED monitor spends the majority of its time showing a near constant image pattern. The constant image projection causes an accelerated wearing of the diodes causing faster degradation and burnout.

 

[P99Guy]

Not Slate, but EV related. I have a 2023 bolt ev. Right where the odometer it started to go black. I touched it and made it worse. Right now it is not getting bigger but I am worried it will get worse. There is about 75,000 miles, I can't tell miles without the odometer. What would cause this? How do I fix this? Would I be able to resale it like that? How much would it be to get it fixed? I need the car to last intil I can buy a Slate Automotive pickup. Please see attached picture. Thank you! Is there another way to read the miles? Thank you!

I posted a used cluster for $120 just fyi I found several used clusters fir $88 online so keep looking.

 

[Paul]

Not Slate, but EV related. I have a 2023 bolt ev. Right where the odometer it started to go black. I touched it and made it worse. Right now it is not getting bigger but I am worried it will get worse. There is about 75,000 miles, I can't tell miles without the odometer. What would cause this? How do I fix this? Would I be able to resale it like that? How much would it be to get it fixed? I need the car to last intil I can buy a Slate Automotive pickup. Please see attached picture. Thank you! Is there another way to read the miles? Thank you!

Looks like a dying LED screen. If it was a Slate, hopefully there would be a University module telling you how to swap out the screen. Hopefully it's not contained with whatever stores the odometer reading as That's probably some sort of dealer only swap for the mileage to be accurate. I would imagine you just can't replace an odometer/ dash assembly module with one that's possibly just lower mileage. I'm sure there's some sort of security hoops to jump through if it isn't just a screen replacement.

 

[tgpii]

I noticed there is a slate forum for non related ev stuff. Sorry.

 

[KevinRS]

This actually looks like it may be physical damage. Like the screen was impacted or stressed at that bottom corner and the glass inside cracked. I see similar but worse all the time on laptop displays in stores. For some reason some people think they need to try to fold the screen closed, though it's in a bracket and can't close, and look at what the back of the screen looks like, and others do it intentionally.
Anyway, yeah, that shouldn't happen on a dash display, so first try and see if the manufacturer will cover it, if not check how much it costs to reprogram a replaced cluster, and work from there.

 

[bloo]

Here's what service information says, basically. No, and yes... The BBCM and Cluster both store the odometer and VIN data, but the BCM is the official record. If either the VIN or ODO do not match, the Cluster will not display the ODO reading.

Therefore, I will stand by my recommendation to not purchase a used module for this specific vehicle.

And THIS is another way auto manufacturers get you. The ECU already has the master record. There's no good reason for the cluster hold it, as well. The scheme generates an artificial conflict just to get you into a dealer. It should be just plug and play. New display reads ECU mileage over CANbus and increment from there.

Okay... I can see a failure mode where the ECU dies and you need to update the new ECU mileage from the cluster. But the cluster logic could've been set up to allow this without preventing a simple cluster swap.

So of course your recommendation is correct. Yet it didn't have to be that way.

 

[KJRaven]

And THIS is another way auto manufacturers get you. The ECU already has the master record. There's no good reason for the cluster hold it, as well. The scheme generates an artificial conflict just to get you into a dealer. It should be just plug and play. New display reads ECU mileage over CANbus and increment from there.

Okay... I can see a failure mode where the ECU dies and you need to update the new ECU mileage from the cluster. But the cluster logic could've been set up to allow this without preventing a simple cluster swap.

So of course your recommendation is correct. Yet it didn't have to be that way.

I can see why they do it; there's a lot of theft, and one way they can deter car parts theft is by making parts less valuable through one-time programming.

I was a GM Master tech for a short time 20 years ago, and they seem to still follow the same methods. I know how they operate, and their reasons include planned obsolescence, shareholder satisfaction, and price control. Re-programmable module memory is significantly more expensive, and if 99% of cars will never need to reprogram a certain module, there's realistically no reason to spend extra money to "over build" a part.

I don't agree with that, and I think we should be able to repair the things we own, which is a big reason I'm excited for the Slate.

 

[P99Guy]

I doubt that the actual screen is locked to the cluster. If you purchase a used cluster just the lcd panel can be removed and swapped in your existing cluster. It may or may not be soldered to the control board but soldering is easy. YouTube has videos. i always look at component level repairs and not just full module swaps.

 

[KJRaven]

I doubt that the actual screen is locked to the cluster. If you purchase a used cluster just the lcd panel can be removed and swapped in your existing cluster. It may or may not be soldered to the control board but soldering is easy. YouTube has videos. i always look at component level repairs and not just full module swaps.

This is probably a viable repair. I would not expect most people to have the desire to do component level repairs like that though. The people that are willing would also not ask in a forum like this, and would do the research needed on their own. In my opinion.

If it was my car then I would for sure explore that before paying a dealer.

 

[P99Guy]

I can see why they do it; there's a lot of theft, and one way they can deter car parts theft is by making parts less valuable through one-time programming.

I was a GM Master tech for a short time 20 years ago, and they seem to still follow the same methods. I know how they operate, and their reasons include planned obsolescence, shareholder satisfaction, and price control. Re-programmable module memory is significantly more expensive, and if 99% of cars will never need to reprogram a certain module, there's realistically no reason to spend extra money to "over build" a part.

I don't agree with that, and I think we should be able to repair the things we own, which is a big reason I'm excited for the Slate.

I dont believe for a minute they care about theft. They make the same money on replacing parts as they do repair. Locking items to their shops and supply system is the reason. Sole source = win for them.

 

[KJRaven]

I dont believe for a minute they care about theft. They make the same money on replacing parts as they do repair. Locking items to their shops and supply system is the reason. Sole source = win for them.

they care enough to not be on the list for most stolen vehicles, which can hurt sales... as with every decision MFGs make, it is a balancing act of doing just enough without spending too much.