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Review: Car and Driver "We Drive the Slate Pickup, an EV for the New Austerity Era"

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Another magazine's review dropped after the recent event that invited the media.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a73296422/2027-slate-ev-truck-drive/

A couple of quick fair use quotes:

"The headliner appears to be made from the same material Hollywood uses for its merkins. Hey, the costs have to come from somewhere. "

"Despite being equally light on curb weight and features, Slate didn't strip every inch of civility out of its truck; the doors close without sounding hollow, and the key fob feels better than some from automakers charging twice as much. "

"Our biggest navigational gripe comes from the truck's thick B-pillars, which create a rather sizable blind spot if you're the type to rely more on your neck than the side mirrors. "

"There's one part of the Blank Slate experience that may cause some consternation, and that's the brake pedal. Like with Rivian, Slate's one-pedal driving is permanently on, even in reverse. It's easy to modulate and provides smooth deceleration, but the potential bugbear lies in the moving pedal, which changes its position based on current braking power. Ostensibly, a system set up like this provides consistent brake pressure for a given rate of decel, but some people—including a few C/D editors—think it feels weird. If you prefer that style, though, you'll dig it here.

Overall, we believe Slate's first offering has a lot of promise. By cutting certain corners and offloading certain parts of the car-building experience to the end user, Slate can release a real car with decent figures and an impressively low base price. "
 

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"The headliner appears to be made from the same material Hollywood uses for its merkins. Hey, the costs have to come from somewhere. "
I had to look up merkins. Unless it's a furry headliner, I doubt the writer is appying that term correctly.

Maybe it'll show up in the maker.
 
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I didn't look it up. What the hell? The writers at C&D always try to be a little edgy. Did this writer work in Hollywood makeup department? I mean, who knows about this stuff. Kind of weird, just like the writer calls the 1PD weird, I'm going to call him weird for making this reference.
 

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"Previously, the company said the truck would charge via its standard NACS port at rates up to 120 kilowatts, but after playing around with the thermal management, that number has dropped to 90 kilowatts."
That's news to me
 

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"Previously, the company said the truck would charge via its standard NACS port at rates up to 120 kilowatts, but after playing around with the thermal management, that number has dropped to 90 kilowatts."
That's news to me
I hope that's not accurate. I see they got the size of the original small pack wrong.
30 minute 20-80% charge would put the average at 76kw, so if it's holding 90kw for most of that range, the math still works.
 

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I hope that's not accurate. I see they got the size of the original small pack wrong.
30 minute 20-80% charge would put the average at 76kw, so if it's holding 90kw for most of that range, the math still works.
maybe they lowered the peak number but were able to charge at a much flatter curve. Which to me sounds preferable.
 

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maybe they lowered the peak number but were able to charge at a much flatter curve. Which to me sounds preferable.
Yeah, I'm still ok with 30 minutes 20-80%
Well, I actually want the 10-80% number, since that's what the rest of the market uses. I'm sure that information will be
***available soon***
 

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Despite being equally light on curb weight and features, Slate didn't strip every inch of civility out of its truck; the doors close without sounding hollow, and the key fob feels better than some from automakers charging twice as much.
It's not important, but I object to calling the current >4,000 lb Slate "lightweight" (especially with that comparison!). Sure, it's around what the new "Nissan Leaf" weighs, but the old 3600 was closer to the 2nd gen Nissan Leaf. That, I called "light".

As for the actual point they were making, it's good that Slate Auto knows to prioritize the parts of the car you touch often. I expected nothing less.
 

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It's not important, but I object to calling the current >4,000 lb Slate "lightweight" (especially with that comparison!). Sure, it's around what the new "Nissan Leaf" weighs, but the old 3600 was closer to the 2nd gen Nissan Leaf. That, I called "light".

As for the actual point they were making, it's good that Slate Auto knows to prioritize the parts of the car you touch often. I expected nothing less.
I have a little concern that several journalists have stated the arm rest is hard plastic. That seems disconcerting. Even my 1999 F-150 Work Series pickup had somewhat soft armrests.
 
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It's not important, but I object to calling the current >4,000 lb Slate "lightweight" (especially with that comparison!). Sure, it's around what the new "Nissan Leaf" weighs, but the old 3600 was closer to the 2nd gen Nissan Leaf. That, I called "light".

As for the actual point they were making, it's good that Slate Auto knows to prioritize the parts of the car you touch often. I expected nothing less.
Yeah, the weight increase was my biggest disappointment. It bumped the slate from second lightest EV for sale in the US, down to like 4th or 5th. Still 400lbs lighter than the new Leaf, lol.
 

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I hope that's not accurate. I see they got the size of the original small pack wrong.
30 minute 20-80% charge would put the average at 76kw, so if it's holding 90kw for most of that range, the math still works.
Yes, but Slate didn't publish that 90 kW rate anywhere. I compared Slate's original specs for L3 charging rates to the latest spec sheet:

WAS (52.7 kW NMC)​
NOW (65 kW LFP)​
Level 3 DC, 120 kW, 20-80% - under 30 minutesLevel 3 DC, 120 kW, 20-80% - 0.5 hr.

It went from under 30 minutes to 1/2 hour. So, it's possible this subtle change is due to the larger battery and associated thermal management.
 

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Yes, but Slate didn't publish that 90 kW rate anywhere. I compared Slate's original specs for L3 charging rates to the latest spec sheet:

WAS (52.7 kW NMC)​
NOW (65 kW LFP)​
Level 3 DC, 120 kW, 20-80% - under 30 minutesLevel 3 DC, 120 kW, 20-80% - 0.5 hr.

It went from under 30 minutes to 1/2 hour. So, it's possible this subtle change is due to the larger battery and associated thermal management.
Did it originally say "under" 30 minutes? I swear it was "around" 30 minutes, but I'm working from memory.
 

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"There's one part of the Blank Slate experience that may cause some consternation, and that's the brake pedal. Like with Rivian, Slate's one-pedal driving is permanently on, even in reverse. It's easy to modulate and provides smooth deceleration, but the potential bugbear lies in the moving pedal, which changes its position based on current braking power. Ostensibly, a system set up like this provides consistent brake pressure for a given rate of decel, but some people—including a few C/D editors—think it feels weird. If you prefer that style, though, you'll dig it here.
So let me get this straight. The brake pedal moves, assumedly on its own, based on current consistent brake pressure for a given rate of deceleration. I get it that the Slate uses the vehicle brakes to 'blend' the regen and friction braking. And it was recently announced the level of regen is fixed and cannot be disabled.

Based on this, the question I now have is, will be replacing brake pads at more frequent intervals?
 
 





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