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What I like about the Slate truck was the initial sub $20K price and the absence of the tech that is too prevalent in today's modern vehicles. Due to the nature of EV fueling requirements, especially on road trips, some tech is just necessary as compared to ICEV. It seems Slate has a workaround...

So, let's start here. In 1973, my father bought a GE Electrak E-15 electric garden tractor (introduced to the market in 1969). I used that machine for 15 years maintaining our 2.5-acre property. It was a fantastic piece of equipment and so far advanced from ICE-powered lawn tractors offered...

Any insight on how the window locks? Captured by the (locking) tailgate?

Or is the missing 4.7 count hybrids, included as ICEV? Then how does that category break down between EV an ICEV systems/related components? Like I said, FUBAR'd.

Well, then the data is presented nonsensically. Add the numbers in parentheses for EV and they equal 4.17 (I guess that number is rounded to 4.2?). Add the ICEV numbers and it equals 5.72. All of the ICEV numbers in parentheses reverse calculate to 5.7 not 10.4. Thinking there is a math error...

So the simplistic EV electric drivetrain fails more often than complex ICE drivetrain; 18% to 10%.

Exactly, I'd like to know too, THAT is what I've been asking you (you provided the link to the article). It matters because for instance, let's say a breakdown category is running out of fuel. In an ICEV it is a simple situation for the recovery vehicle to bring 2 gallons of gasoline and the...

Okay, fun math, but what are the other categories of breakdowns? And how are those breakdowns related to or correlate with parts count and chemical reaction process? (i.e. simplicity) AND, the data is per 1,000 cars. How about breakdowns by miles driven? If the article only comments on LVB and...

But what are the categories of the breakdowns? Running out of fuel? Dead 12V batteries, flat tire, connecting rod through the side of the engine block, melted stator, broken windings? And for cars from 2020 to 2022. If we knew the specific data we can assess why each type of car broke down...

I don't know if the article had a link to the German data, and if it did was the German data presented in English. It seemed to key in on 12-volt battery issues and tire issues. Several EV brands have low voltage battery issues, the Mach E does and early Teslas did, and Audi IIRC. It seems...

From the article: "Of course, EVs are also devoid of potential ICE issues regardless of age. They don’t have oil to replace, nor the complex propulsion system that an internal combustion engine is, and as a result, they have fewer pieces that can break." What is this statement trying to say...

Exactly. Every part in any machine has a meantime between failure based on its engineered design and variability in manufacturing tolerances.

Tesla do. Hyundai do. Fords do. Lucid do. GMs do. Not sure what your point is.

My statement does account for renewables. Research it.

Neither does the oil pump in an EV.

Electrical energy generation at the plant is not much more thermally efficient than Otto or Diesel. Once the electrons get stored in the battery, yes the conversion to kinetic is very efficient. There is heat loss also in transmission of electricity over the grid and at voltage stepping to get...

Except the same amount of work is spread over 2,000 parts vs. 25. So there is more work load per part with an EV.

But if the one part of the EV motor that does rotate locks up, well it's the same difference. The forces in the drivetrain required to move the vehicle are spread over 25 moving parts rather than 2,000 parts. Think of it that way.

Hence the invention of... motor oil.

Oh, now you've done it! :CWL: