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I don't know about that. I like a lot of the idea, just not what you get for the price you pay here being heavily adopted. I mean that's a lot of niche. I get it has some loud supporters. Niche vehicles do. But they are targeting RWD on a pickup, the least selling drivetrain. They are...

Agree, and don't forget that Slate noted that their price did not include fees either. I'm not being smarmy, I just thought people shopped and didn't just pay MSRP and knew that dealers run deals on pickups a LOT.

Not really, and I get it's easier to go after the person than the facts and data and if you want to do that, you have every right... But I'm curious, but I can't see the price point for what you get. Not saying it's going to fail, but no one is really explaining that side of it how at that...

Because dealerships don't sell MSRP all the time, especially on trucks they run some big deals...

They were there with the slate team. The slate team let them leave with that number. It's not like the slate team is a bunch of idiots holding a PR event and letting everyone walk out with an artificially high number. If Amazon says the new kindle is coming out under $400, you'll see it at...

I'm sure they know that if every market works out the best for them and inflation keeps to a super low level etc the lowest number they can go And I'm really sure they have a decent group working on this that didn't send the media off quoting numbers higher than that one. Like you say, they...

I don't think their team is that inept. If they are that truck is doomed right? If they have a leader using $27,499 as "mid 20k" good for him. If he meant $24,800ish and they let everyone they held time with from major journalists to walk out with an artificially high number, that is an awful...

Of course that's the consensus. That's what major automotive press have noted after their conversations with the Slate team as well and slate has done nothing to disuade anyone from repeatedly using those numbers. MAYBE their PR team is idiots and instead of saying "under $18k" and drumming...

Not sure what you are stating there. But no. I'm not sure I would want an EV pickup really. Maybe if it was a bit more practical than the slate, but not at that price. I think I'd be looking at a chevy silverado EV WT there for the step up in cost coming with so much more. Just looking...

Yes. Like I said, respectable publications have stated the price. Slate has given a price that barring them being absolute idiots at PR is going to be the best they can give. Thus the $27.5k expectation that no one is contradicting as the hope today where if in a perfect world 2027 comes...

It's that price vs. reward math that hurts. To get that on a vehicle is expensive. Looking at the 3 miles or so per kwh, and 17 cents a kWh average in the US, that's about 62 cents a day in savings. IF you park outside and have sunny days. Figure 65% of days in the US (higher in places...

Well I'd say 27-28K is more high 20's than mid (I'll leave that level of wordplay to the PR team to convince us that is in the "middle" of the 20's), but sure, I'm just being pragmatic that hoping for that number to not change from a release event to drum up interest has not worked out well...

That's right. Card and Driver and Motor Trend as well as a slew of other sources have put the price at $27k to $27.5k before incentives and Slate has not corrected that to anything new. Obviously for a PR release though they are going as low as they think could be possible. So everything...

That's true. I have a model 3 (2020, before the heat pump addition) and that 300 miles when you add on 4 season tires (important for me with my AWD, but absolutely necessary for a RWD) instead of the efficient tires, and the cold weather and the 20-80 rule (for everyday driving), 150 miles...

What I meant by the current price is the listed price at dealerships in the United States selling them today. Not the online pricing but actual prices they are listing for at dealerships today. That is true... The price estimate for the slate is not real and we won't know until 2026/2027...

That's kind of the problem. Today right now you can get a Maverick XL with the all-wheel drive at a tick under $25k. And that has things like a radio. Four doors. Good seats in the back. Paint. Better payload. A lot better towing. Even that trim is practically luxury by comparison. And...

I kind of. Was looking at it like that too but I think it really struggles there. Like for us, we bought the cheapest pickup you can buy in the cheapest trim (Maverick XL) as our 2nd vehicle. But we can still take it places in winter. I can still pick up my little kid after school (wife...

That is a big piece If you live in the cold like I do. I've got a 300 mile range and a resistive heater and that cold makes a huge difference. With RWD you obviously would want to be removing those EV friendly tires and putting on some four seasons and losing 10 to 15% of your range. Then...