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  • Pickup load capacity: 1,433
  • Extended Battery: 302
  • SUV Kit 310
  • Tire Carrier + Wheel & Tire: ??? (well over 21)
  • Average Adult male ~200
Pickup with Extended Battery option holds 1,311 pounds.
SUV with Standard Battery holds 1,123 pounds.
SUV with Extended Battery option holds only 821 pounds.
Tire Carrier + Wheel & Tire subtracts from those.
Standard 17" tire without wheel weighs ~34 pounds.
 
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My car has a load capacity in the 900 lb range, of course it's already built for 5ish people, and has a (compact) spare tire. Even 4 of those 200 lb average people are pushing close to the limit with the trunk empty. Figure on at least part of the people in it to be smaller, maybe kids or teens and you've got a bit more margin.

I think the intent is to pick and choose, if you add everything, you will be running into limits.
If you need to drive around 4 big adult males, need the range, and the spare, it might be the wrong vehicle.
I'll be going with the smaller battery, no SUV kit, maybe the spare, will have to see details, and I may have a passenger 10% of the time, and I may load several hundred pounds in the bed once in a while.
 

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The Truck's load capacity is completely acceptable.

That said, I think a lot of people are expecting the Truck to be heavier-duty than it actually will be. That's why I created this thread.
 

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The Truck's load capacity is completely acceptable.

That said, I think a lot of people are expecting the Truck to be heavier-duty than it actually will be. That's why I created this thread.
I need to readjust back to "golf cart replacement". It will thusly outperform my expectations!
 

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Not even sure how bike rack + spare tire would work, if nothing else the rack has to extend out the tire width farther than it would without the tire.
But yeah, load it up with everything, and the 1400 lb capacity doesn't seem so big. Just going by my possibly flawed recall of what others have posted, say 600 lbs of passengers for a round largish number, 310 for the extended battery, 210 for the SUV kit, you are at 1120, don't recall the spare weight estimate, but the remaining capacity for those bikes and everything else you want is shrinking fast.
I think a safe bet would be any bike rack that would work on a Jeep Wrangler etc. My goal is to toss bikes in the bed with one of the bed mounted racks, that secure the bike front wheels against the front wall of the bed
 
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I think alot of people are thinking about payload capacity for (likely) the first time.

A 2020-2021 Silverado 1500 can haul 1,750-2,280 pounds. 1750 is not much more than the Slate can do. Then think about how many Silverados (like mine) have a topper/canopy on top. Those can weigh 200-500 lbs. Add in 4 adults, and man, the Silverado can't haul anything either!

Edit: One thing that I think is funny is how many times this scenario has been brought up. I can count the number of times I've picked up 1000lbs of anything in my truck, WITH 4 other people in the vehicle, on one hand. (The answer is zero). Usually I go pick up the fridge or washer & dryer or yard of bark by myself.
 

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I think alot of people are thinking about payload capacity for (likely) the first time.

A 2020-2021 Silverado 1500 can haul 1,750-2,280 pounds. 1750 is not much more than the Slate can do. Then think about how many Silverados (like mine) have a topper/canopy on top. Those can weigh 200-500 lbs. Add in 4 adults, and man, the Silverado can't haul anything either!
Sounds like you gots Silverado probs…
 

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Sounds like you gots Silverado probs…
Sure, you can be cheeky about it all you want. Ford is no different. TWO models of the current F150 have a payload capacity of 1405 lbs. The max for the F150 is 2445.
 

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Plenty of stories out there about people getting a new truck, taking it and getting a load of dirt or gravel, and figuring out that's way past the weight capacity. A month or so ago driving to work I was behind a pickup that was going slow, when I got to a turn lane and got beside it, it had a pallet of cinder blocks in the bed, the rear suspension must have been fully compressed, back of truck down, nose up like 15 degrees.
 

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Sure, you can be cheeky about it all you want. Ford is no different. TWO models of the current F150 have a payload capacity of 1405 lbs. The max for the F150 is 2445.
I'm absolutely being cheeky! I'm about to put this stupid Lightning in the shop for DAYS starting next week to sort out it's FRUNK. (For the record, my Dad was Chevy-only for DECADES...now he has a Toyota Avalon and still attempts to drive it - things change).
 

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Plenty of stories out there about people getting a new truck, taking it and getting a load of dirt or gravel, and figuring out that's way past the weight capacity. A month or so ago driving to work I was behind a pickup that was going slow, when I got to a turn lane and got beside it, it had a pallet of cinder blocks in the bed, the rear suspension must have been fully compressed, back of truck down, nose up like 15 degrees.
In my 2021 F150, I *might* have been guilty of getting 1-ton+ of rock put in the bed of mine....I don't own that truck anymore. Coincidence? I will never tell.
 

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I'm absolutely being cheeky! I'm about to put this stupid Lightning in the shop for DAYS starting next week to sort out it's FRUNK. (For the record, my Dad was Chevy-only for DECADES...now he has a Toyota Avalon and still attempts to drive it - things change).
I get it. My only point is that I believe people truly are looking at payload capacities for the first time. It's an important metric that I'd wager 90%+ of truck owners don't even know, nor how to properly account for it. They think if it fits in the bed, their truck can handle it. I just want to point out how easy it is to overload a brand new 1/2 ton pickup too.
 

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I get it. My only point is that I believe people truly are looking at payload capacities for the first time. It's an important metric that I'd wager 90%+ of truck owners don't even know, nor how to properly account for it. They think if it fits in the bed, their truck can handle it. I just want to point out how easy it is to overload a brand new 1/2 ton pickup too.
You're the preacher - I'm the choir. Sing it.
 
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I get it. My only point is that I believe people truly are looking at payload capacities for the first time. It's an important metric that I'd wager 90%+ of truck owners don't even know, nor how to properly account for it. They think if it fits in the bed, their truck can handle it. I just want to point out how easy it is to overload a brand new 1/2 ton pickup too.
....and that's not even touching on static vs dynamic loads (pallet of bricks vs a half full IBC tank of liquid), front loaded vs interior (balanced load) vs in-bed vs 5th wheel vs hitch mounts vs 2 wheel dolly vs various trailers, any assist devices, etc.... The possible scenarios are whatever-you-can-possibly-imagine-plus-one.

End of the day all the standard tow/load specs we see here in the US (and really anywhere, though EU has a better method I'd argue) are just kind of guidelines. The things I pulled with a class A hitch from Curt on my old 2000 Civic with a 1.6 Auto and about 200k miles is beyond what the Slate is rated for. And I did it all the time. I'm sure the Slate will be at least as capable.
 
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wanna scare yourself? Put a tarp in the bed of your current truck and fill it 1/2 with water and go to the grocery store.
 
 
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