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$1400 if your browser window is cutting it off. They are calling that number based on a one-off comment from an exec who side "just like other EVs." Leaf and Bolt are $1400, so that's where they came up with that.

I thought the part right before was interesting too. Automakers are pausing on tooling in Mexico because of this USMCA. Not that I want to see more turmoil with our neighbors, but this should benefit Slate if the US comes down hard.
 

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I thought the part right before was interesting too. Automakers are pausing on tooling in Mexico because of this USMCA. Not that I want to see more turmoil with our neighbors, but this should benefit Slate if the US comes down hard.
Isn't the Maverick hecho en Mexico?

That might change the comparison math some if there's no Mavericks available.
 

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But the tax on a Maverick will only be $1000. /s
 

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And shall we talk about doc fees? I'm not talking registration fees or courier fees. Just this mysterious "doc fee" that someone invented 50 years ago. Supposedly, Carvana doesn't have a doc fee. I hope that's true for Slate if the rumors are true that Carvana will be the partner.

In my area, the Ford dealer mafia cabal family are up to $899 in doc fees. By state law this fee is printed on all their paperwork. It is a state law that IF a doc fee is charged, it must be charged the same to all customers. This is to avoid red-lining and discrimination. So then you have to start negotiating for them to lower their vehicle price to erase the doc fee on an total sum basis. If you are not careful, this happens in the finance managers office. It becomes a real hassle for the buyer because you are now up against the #1 sales associate in the building. He or she has balls of steel and you are a puny little inexperienced lump of putty.

This is where I get frustrated with people talking about Ford comparisons. I know a lot of people are master negotiators, and they can deal with all this crap. But for the rest of us, we just get unknowingly screwed. Then we get on the internet and tell the world about the great deal we got, and don't include the doc fee because "it is a standard non-negotiable fee" and not part of the deal.
 

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The local Ford store charges a $500 doc fee. Just saw in the local paper they made a $500 contribution to a local charity. Once you know the scam, it's just an eye roll.

Remember crew, anytime there's a system in place, no matter how unfair it seems, it's there because someone wants it that way.
 
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ok so here are some
2026 NEW VEHICLE DESTINATION FEES BY AUTOMAKER (Low to High)
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Mercedes-Benz ........... $1,150 (flat across all cars/SUVs)
Toyota ................... $1,160 (most cars; Tundra is $2,095)
BMW ...................... $1,175 (flat across all cars/SUVs)
Acura .................... $1,195
Honda .................... $1,195 (Civic/Prelude; other models vary)
Kia ...................... $1,195
Nissan ................... $1,195 (Z; other Nissan models run higher)
Subaru ................... $1,195
Volvo .................... $1,195 (V60; SUVs run higher, ~$1,295+)
Mazda .................... $1,235
Hyundai .................. ~$1,295 (varies by model)
Lexus .................... ~$1,300
Volkswagen ............... ~$1,300
Infiniti ................. ~$1,350
Genesis .................. ~$1,350
Mitsubishi ............... ~$1,400 (raised due to import tariffs)
Audi ..................... ~$1,400
Buick .................... ~$1,395
Mini ..................... ~$1,400
Chrysler ................. $1,995 (Pacifica, Voyager)
Dodge .................... $1,995
Jeep ..................... $1,995 (except Grand Wagoneer: $2,595)
Land Rover/Range Rover ... ~$1,800–$2,400 (varies widely by model)
Jaguar ................... ~$1,400
Cadillac ................. $1,795 (smaller models; Escalade: $2,895)
Porsche .................. $2,350
Tesla ..................... ~$1,390–$1,490 (varies by model)
Rivian ................... ~$1,800
Lucid .................... ~$1,500
Polestar ................. ~$1,400
Ford ..................... ~$1,495 (Escape/Corsair-class); F-150/F-250/F-350: $2,595
Lincoln .................. ~$1,495 (Corsair); Navigator: $2,595
GMC ...................... ~$1,995 (smaller); Sierra/Yukon: $2,795; Hummer EV: $2,695
Chevrolet ................ ~$1,995 (smaller); Silverado/Suburban/Tahoe: $2,795
Ram ...................... $2,595
Maserati ................. ~$1,995–$2,395
Alfa Romeo ............... $3,250 (Giulia, Stelvio, Tonale — highest in mass market)
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Exotic/ultra-luxury (rough ranges, vary a lot by model):
Bentley .................. ~$2,995
Aston Martin ............. ~$2,995
Lamborghini .............. ~$3,000–$4,000
Rolls-Royce .............. ~$2,750
Ferrari/McLaren .......... typically not itemized publicly; built into MSRP
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And shall we talk about doc fees? I'm not talking registration fees or courier fees. Just this mysterious "doc fee" that someone invented 50 years ago. Supposedly, Carvana doesn't have a doc fee. I hope that's true for Slate if the rumors are true that Carvana will be the partner.

In my area, the Ford dealer mafia cabal family are up to $899 in doc fees. By state law this fee is printed on all their paperwork. It is a state law that IF a doc fee is charged, it must be charged the same to all customers. This is to avoid red-lining and discrimination. So then you have to start negotiating for them to lower their vehicle price to erase the doc fee on an total sum basis. If you are not careful, this happens in the finance managers office. It becomes a real hassle for the buyer because you are now up against the #1 sales associate in the building. He or she has balls of steel and you are a puny little inexperienced lump of putty.

This is where I get frustrated with people talking about Ford comparisons. I know a lot of people are master negotiators, and they can deal with all this crap. But for the rest of us, we just get unknowingly screwed. Then we get on the internet and tell the world about the great deal we got, and don't include the doc fee because "it is a standard non-negotiable fee" and not part of the deal.
The Dealer Doc Fee at Ford in KY is $690 and is nonnegotiable. To my dealers credit, they do not add any BS add ons or Market Adjustments. But there is the doc fee.
 
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ok looks like direct to consumer sales are using this tax in az Transaction Privilege Tax (TPT) and that is 5.6%. So if you got the base slate at 6.27% interest with 10% down ($2,495) with the 5.6% sales tax at 60 months with Title, Registration and Other Fees($2,010.90roughly) your monthly payment would be $503.26 with a total OTD being $28,358.10 for the record i am bad at math
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ok looks like direct to consumer sales are using this tax in az Transaction Privilege Tax (TPT) and that is 5.6%.
The TPT is just what they call the sales tax that out of state sellers have to pay. The amount is the same as the regular sales tax, which is 5.6% for the state plus whatever county and local sales tax piles on top. In Tucson and Phoenix it totals out to around 8.5%
 
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The TPT is just what they call the sales tax that out of state sellers have to pay. The amount is the same as the regular sales tax, which is 5.6% for the state plus whatever county and local sales tax piles on top. In Tucson and Phoenix it totals out to around 8.5%
oh ok i didn't know that ok comes out to be monthly $517.34 assuming everything else is right but that's a ghost tell later
 

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The TPT is just what they call the sales tax that out of state sellers have to pay. The amount is the same as the regular sales tax, which is 5.6% for the state plus whatever county and local sales tax piles on top. In Tucson and Phoenix it totals out to around 8.5%
I just figure 10%. Easy math, and no surprises.
 
 
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