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Driven5
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The answer is obvious.
Of all the engines that are operable on any given day, there is a greater probability that all of the ECEV's will still be operable the next day than ICEV's, HEV's, PHEV's, or EV's.
...Thus external combustion engine vehicles are more reliable.
Of all the engines that are operable on any given day, there is a greater probability that all of the ECEV's will still be operable the next day than ICEV's, HEV's, PHEV's, or EV's.
...Thus external combustion engine vehicles are more reliable.
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Daemoch
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TBH, Im a fan of jets. literally no moving parts in the most basic design (buzz jet) and only one piece if you wanna be stubborn and get a little creative. But add even one (moving) part and you can make it a turbine and so drive a wheel.
Me, I'm of the opinion that the best design is generally either steam or electric based on the centuries of use and literally billions of miles that trains have been running them for. If there was a better way, they would have done it already. They have tried standard ICE designs, but they were apparently not as reliable and the maintenance costs were too high, so instead modern designs use a diesel and genny that then feeds the motors and batteries. The Engineer is there mostly to keep the diesel running, so thats kinda telling.
Since I dont want to have to deal with a steam-car, I'll vote EV. Less to go wrong.
Me, I'm of the opinion that the best design is generally either steam or electric based on the centuries of use and literally billions of miles that trains have been running them for. If there was a better way, they would have done it already. They have tried standard ICE designs, but they were apparently not as reliable and the maintenance costs were too high, so instead modern designs use a diesel and genny that then feeds the motors and batteries. The Engineer is there mostly to keep the diesel running, so thats kinda telling.
Since I dont want to have to deal with a steam-car, I'll vote EV. Less to go wrong.
atreis
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Horses are pretty unreliable... Sled dogs maybe? Barges poled along canals... TBH, for ground transportation it's hard to beat trains, which are almost entirely electric (sometimes powered by diesel generators, but they're still electric where it counts). No doubt some of that comes down to running on rails, with less bouncing and vibration, and some to generally better maintenance.
The Weatherman
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Am I missing the punchline?
“External Combustion Engine” was not an option in the survey. What the hell is an external combustion engine anyway? Did you mean to say “Internal”?
“External Combustion Engine” was not an option in the survey. What the hell is an external combustion engine anyway? Did you mean to say “Internal”?
atreis
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I don't agree in terms of reliability, but this is what they are: External combustion engine - Wikipedia
SichuanHot
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It's proven that BEV are more reliable, but from a DIY perspective, less accessible. I think finding the happy medium between the two is something that will require time as electrical potential energy storage tech evolves and changes, and the infrastructure adapts as well.
Slate is clearly attempting to be at the vanguard of making EVs accessible to the DIYer, at least that's what I gather from their marketing. To what degree, time will tell. The aftermarket will then catch up making tools and supporting hardware to make working on EV specific jobs easier and cheaper. Harbor Freight? Looking at you for a cheap battery sled jack. It's still a wild west for the shade tree EV mechanic. Let's see what will happen.
Slate is clearly attempting to be at the vanguard of making EVs accessible to the DIYer, at least that's what I gather from their marketing. To what degree, time will tell. The aftermarket will then catch up making tools and supporting hardware to make working on EV specific jobs easier and cheaper. Harbor Freight? Looking at you for a cheap battery sled jack. It's still a wild west for the shade tree EV mechanic. Let's see what will happen.
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Daemoch
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As a thought, how does this compare to RC cars? Humor my weird parallel thought for a sec and youll get where I'm coming from...
Entry RC cars are almost all electrics. You only get into the gas stuff later (usually alcohol or nitro classes). Why? Cause the gas ones are considered more dangerous, more complicated, and cost far more to produce and use. But in this case the tech and society is going the other way. ICEV came first and is well established, EVs are the new 'unknown'. So I'm thinking the same facts that hold up for RC cars still hold true (ignoring the scale differences), we're just all really used to it being 'this way' so the 'new way' naturally seems more complicated and sketchy at first. But I'm far more comfortable handing kids an electric RC car with Lithium batteries in it than an alcohol ICE version.
Going further with this weird thought, most people would agree given the same scenario with a chainsaw, a weedwhacker, or pretty much any power tool. Entire companies are staking their whole product business model on that fact. When's the last time you saw an ICE circular saw at HomeDepot?
Entry RC cars are almost all electrics. You only get into the gas stuff later (usually alcohol or nitro classes). Why? Cause the gas ones are considered more dangerous, more complicated, and cost far more to produce and use. But in this case the tech and society is going the other way. ICEV came first and is well established, EVs are the new 'unknown'. So I'm thinking the same facts that hold up for RC cars still hold true (ignoring the scale differences), we're just all really used to it being 'this way' so the 'new way' naturally seems more complicated and sketchy at first. But I'm far more comfortable handing kids an electric RC car with Lithium batteries in it than an alcohol ICE version.
Going further with this weird thought, most people would agree given the same scenario with a chainsaw, a weedwhacker, or pretty much any power tool. Entire companies are staking their whole product business model on that fact. When's the last time you saw an ICE circular saw at HomeDepot?
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