If the Slate PU came only as an ICE, I would buy one.

[sodamo]

Stop, reason isn’t helpful lol. If it was, we wouldn’t have had this conversation for so long

Time for Admin to lock?

 

[Driven5]

Against my better judgement, I'm going to give this one last honest shot...

I've never refuted the reports summary of 4.2 vs. 10.4 (I'm not sure what the unit of measure is however - it's not very clear).

It was very clearly stated multiple times in this thread (including your own posting), in all of the articles, and in the study data itself, that the units of measure is breakdowns per 1000 registered vehicles, more specifically those 2-4 years old. Per 1000 is a variation on percent, which is simply per 100. Since only a few breakdown categories exceed 1 percent, like ICE breakdowns at 1.04% (10.4 per 1000) doing it this way just makes the numbers easier to to work with. It's the same reason we use percent rather than the 0.0104 of pure math.

When I went to school, I learned 8% is less than 13%, 45% is less than 50%. I did not learn that 18% is less than 10%. Maybe you guys did.

First, the reporting of that tire data was very poorly done. They should have specified that ICE having fewer tire problems than EV was also only for model year 2020 cars. The remaining 2021-2022 model years and overall (as reported by AZFox) tire results all still have EV with fewer tire problems than ICE.

Second, speaking of units of measure, you are mixing and matching units of measure that are not directly comparable between the percentages. Percent OF WHAT matters. Percentages can only be directly compared to the specific thing they are 'of'. Comparing them across groups of things requires normalizing the data between the groups (i.e. multiplying the percentage against the total) before comparing them.

For example:

40% of Ferrari's are red. Ferrari produced 15,000 total cars.
4% of Ford's are red. Ford produced 1,500,000 total cars.

Are there fewer red Ferrari's or red Ford's produced?

If you say that there are fewer red Ford's produced than red Ferrari's, because 4% is less than 40%, despite them being "of" similar-but-different (much like "of EV" and "of ICE") units of measure, then you're agreeing with your previous posts on how to analyze the data.

If you say that there are fewer red Ferrari's produced than red Ford's, because normalizing them puts 40% of the 15k cars Ferrari produces at 6,000 red Ferrari's, and 4% of the 1.5M cars Ford produces at 60,000 red Ford's, then you're agreeing with our previous posts on how to analyze the data.

The question remains though, will you actually take the time to fully understand and reflect on all of what has been written here, before responding?

 

[AZFox]

The data say ICEVs break down six times more frequently compared to EVs when you disregard the 12v battery and tire issues ICEVs and EVs have in common.

Why?