NACS adapter

[metroshot]

$40

 

[AJM1]

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[AJM1]

Thanks everyone. I found it in the FAQ's, imagine that.

 

[Moe]

Good catch! Free J1772 adapter like Tesla.

 

[Moe]

“EV Charging 2.0” refers to new sites that have both CCS1 and NACS plugs. Some have both plugs on every charging post while others have some CCS1 dispensers and some NACS dispensers. In the case of the latter, it’s handy to have an adapter in the event all of your car’s type are in use but there are available spots for the other.

 

[BCondrey]

So, you need a non-wifi EVSE with a NACS plug. I have a "classic", but my truck has a J1772 port, so I don't need an adapter.

The Grizzl-e classic is sort of a pain to hardwire, requires special lugs. I would definitely hardwire and not use a 14-50 outlet. Grizzl-e has an "Ultimate" model that is designed to be hardwired and has an NACS plug. You can probably use your phone hotspot to set it up and get updates when you need to.

If you do use a 14-50 outlet, choose one that is designed for EV charging (Hubble or Bryant) and make sure you use a torque screw driver to get the connections right. There are a ton of reputable 14-50 connected "mobile" EVSE on e-bay, new in box. They will charge at 32 amps, which should be fine for the Slate.

The reddit sub r/evcharging has a ton of info on this.

 

[handydom47]

Question will I be able to set the charge start time when I charge my Slate?
Rates drop after midnight.
Thanks

 

[Moe]

Question will I be able to set the charge start time when I charge my Slate?
Rates drop after midnight.
Thanks

Most probably. Likely in the app, transferred to the vehicle.

 

[FlyHappy]

Question will I be able to set the charge start time when I charge my Slate?
Rates drop after midnight.
Thanks

agree with @Moe that Slate is highly likely to code scheduled charging functionality into their App, in order to use with any "dumb charger"... but as with so many things, we have to really wait and see to be certain.
Personally, I am not averse to many of the cheaper "connected" EVSE that are available. If you are not bothered or paranoid about devices with wifi/apps, choices abound.

 

[Moe]

Personally, I am not averse to many of the cheaper "connected" EVSE that are available. If you are not bothered or paranoid about devices with wifi/apps, choices abound.

Agreed. Some routers allow restricting devices to local traffic and one can usually manually configure a device’s IP settings with a bogus gateway address to keep its traffic local.

 

[AJM1]

Yes, I am going to hardwire. I don't really care if the device has wifi capabilities, it's just difficult for me to determine whether or not the lack of Internet will affect charging on a "connected" charger.

 

[AZFox]

Grizzl-E Connect App Permissions

 

[solartogo]

So am I correct in the following understandings about level 1 & 2 EV charging?

1. Level 1 charging is 120V AC, just a cable that plugs into the wall on one end, and the EV on the other, no active electronics, except in the EV. Best on a dedicated circuit, but works with any circuit with outlets, but watch out for other concurrent loads.
2. Level 2 charging is 240V AC, just a cable that plugs into the wall on one end, and the EV on the other, no active electronics, except in the EV. Generally 240V circuits are dedicated circuits.
3. Slate provides a cable with appropriate adapters for Level 1 and Level 2 charging with adapters for various wall outlets and the Slate truck
4. Per the above comment, Slate provides a cable adapter from J1772 to NACS for use with charge stations that provide J1772 support

5. Installing an enhanced (anything beyond an outlet, is considered enhanced) EV charger system, generally hard-wired, on a dedicated circuit, with active electronics from various vendors provides no additional charging speed, but the electronics can provide features such setting charge times, lower charge speeds, reduced charge when overall house consumption is high (called intelligent load management, best if it has UL 3141 certification).
5a. Are there other enhancements of note not listed in #5?

6. I suppose EV fast chargers could be installed at home also, but my knowledge is a lot less here. Can they? What sort of circuits are required?

 

[Doctors Do Little]

I understand that. It's pretty difficult to find a non wifi one. The Grizzl-e classic is one of the few I found that does not require an Internet connection to set up and set voltage.

I have had the OG Grizzl-e for more than a year with no problems on a Lightning and now an X5 PHEV. It’s stupidly easy to install and use.

 

[phidauex]

So am I correct in the following understandings about level 1 & 2 EV charging?

1. Level 1 charging is 120V AC, just a cable that plugs into the wall on one end, and the EV on the other, no active electronics, except in the EV. Best on a dedicated circuit, but works with any circuit with outlets, but watch out for other concurrent loads.
2. Level 2 charging is 240V AC, just a cable that plugs into the wall on one end, and the EV on the other, no active electronics, except in the EV. Generally 240V circuits are dedicated circuits.
3. Slate provides a cable with appropriate adapters for Level 1 and Level 2 charging with adapters for various wall outlets and the Slate truck
4. Per the above comment, Slate provides a cable adapter from J1772 to NACS for use with charge stations that provide J1772 support

5. Installing an enhanced (anything beyond an outlet, is considered enhanced) EV charger system, generally hard-wired, on a dedicated circuit, with active electronics from various vendors provides no additional charging speed, but the electronics can provide features such setting charge times, lower charge speeds, reduced charge when overall house consumption is high (called intelligent load management, best if it has UL 3141 certification).
5a. Are there other enhancements of note not listed in #5?

6. I suppose EV fast chargers could be installed at home also, but my knowledge is a lot less here. Can they? What sort of circuits are required?

I'd agree with all of those. For #6, outside of a few odd boutique items, there is no reason for DC fast chargers at home. They would be insanely expensive, and would need more power than the local grid transformers can supply. A good Level 2 charger is all you need, and even many people are good with Level 1 if they commute less than 30-40 miles a day and can plug in every night.