New video addressing EV repairs

[WT_Door]

I thought this was a worthwhile watch (as are a number of the videos posted by this creator.)

Summary
- most common warranty and roadside assistance callout - 12v battery
- most expensive warranty claim that, while rare, is in the top 5 - onboard charger/charge control module
- other items include power locks, suspension, and charge port faults, as well as items that don't apply to Slate (charge port flap actuator) and another that may only partially apply to Slate (parking sensors - unclear if backup camera and AEB would be included in this category)

Qualifiers - the creator is citing studies from European countries, not the US. And he is amalgamating them - so while he presents a top 5+ list, it pulls from more than one source.

Questions I have after this:
1) How do the Slate warranties (the 10 yr/110k mile Battery and Powertrain and the 4 yr/50k mile Standard Limited Vehicle) address the onboard charger/charge control module, the 12v battery, the HVDC/12VDC converter, and the NACS charge port?
2) Are the onboard charger/charge control module, HVDC/12CVDC converter and NACS charge port considered part of the HV system? Are they considered beyond the capability of the DIY owner to perform DIY warranty repair on these items? Will this limit the potential RepairPal locations that can work on them (to HV certified locations?)

 

[Moe]

Those are great questions and will be answered as we get closer to shipping vehicles.

HV Components
Charge Port
AC Charger (output)
Traction Battery/BMS
Hydronic PTC Heater
Air Conditioner Compressor
DC-DC Converter (input)
Inverter/Motor/Gearbox

Note that as long as the battery has 70% or more of original capacity ~145 miles, it could still be good for warranty purposes.

 

[E90400K]

What I don't understand is the difficulty of EV to keep the 12V battery properly charged. There are many aftermarket battery maintainers that can keep a proper maintenance charge on a 12V automotive battery.

Personally, I keep three of my vehicles constantly on battery maintainers, my two motorcycles and my New Holland diesel tractor. The maintainers work flawlessly.

Why it would be difficult to engineer a 400V DC to 12V DC maintainer module just for the 12V battery seems perplexing. Several EV have the problem of early EOL for the 12V system battery. The Mach E is notorious for it.

 

[FlyHappy]

seems like there's some potential grey area between the HV and 12v systems, in terms of what fall under the longer warranty period.
Obviously the 12v battery itself won't be part of the HV warranty, but in terms of the output of DC-DC conversion.... that part isn't clear to me. Feels like it can somewhat depend on how it is implemented in hardware.

I assume the Slate will not accept HV charging if its 12v systems aren't functional (I could be wrong), which support the notion that the entirety of 12v systems (sans battery) are/"should be" warrantied with the HV.

OTOH, Hyundai's ongoing ICCU debacle, which famously prompted them to extend warranty on the ICCU to 15y/180k, crazy this that Hyundai covers ICCU NOT with the battery, but with the powertrain, and even though both are 10/100, the powertrain does NOT transfer with owners, the battery does. Its bizarre to me that Hyundai can consider the inability to drive or charge (with failed ICCU) to not be a battery issue.

Anyhoo... we don't know, but I'm counting on Slate simplicity to be more manageable in advanced years, more so then an EV of any other make.

 

[NMNeil]

I thought this was a worthwhile watch (as are a number of the videos posted by this creator.)

Summary
- most common warranty and roadside assistance callout - 12v battery
- most expensive warranty claim that, while rare, is in the top 5 - onboard charger/charge control module
- other items include power locks, suspension, and charge port faults, as well as items that don't apply to Slate (charge port flap actuator) and another that may only partially apply to Slate (parking sensors - unclear if backup camera and AEB would be included in this category)

Qualifiers - the creator is citing studies from European countries, not the US. And he is amalgamating them - so while he presents a top 5+ list, it pulls from more than one source.

Questions I have after this:
1) How do the Slate warranties (the 10 yr/110k mile Battery and Powertrain and the 4 yr/50k mile Standard Limited Vehicle) address the onboard charger/charge control module, the 12v battery, the HVDC/12VDC converter, and the NACS charge port?
2) Are the onboard charger/charge control module, HVDC/12CVDC converter and NACS charge port considered part of the HV system? Are they considered beyond the capability of the DIY owner to perform DIY warranty repair on these items? Will this limit the potential RepairPal locations that can work on them (to HV certified locations?)

I believe that in California they require a warranty on most, in not all of the high voltage system.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/regulations/california/13-CCR-1962.8

 

[D’Roc]

Shayan_EV is a GREAT source!

 

[007]

CyberCogs CC-PDU100 Power Distribution unit. Mean time between failures- greater than 8 years.

https://www.cybercogs.com/our_product/cybercogs-cc-pdu100-power-distribution-unit/

 

[VigilKnotEagle14]

I thought this was a worthwhile watch (as are a number of the videos posted by this creator.)

I agree, thank you for sharing this! I appreciate his methodology.