Controller Area Network?

[IanNubbit]

Good to know. It seems like CAN may be more robust than I'm giving it credit for.

You seem like the person to ask: We've had mandatory back up cameras on the rear of our vehicles for awhile now. Why haven't we seen these cameras used as a rear-facing dashcam?
It seems like it would be super easy to integrate the existing camera with the existing media storge and collision sensors, and have a functional dashcam. I've always believed it was because those are 3 separate systems, and they don't interface well with each other, but you seem to indicate that's not the case. I've not even seen aftermarket options to use the existing rear camera with a 3rd party recording device.
It's frustrating that we're getting mandatory driver-facing cameras which can disable our vehicles based on driver behavior, and we still don't have OEM dashcams.

Totally an option just not used, tesla does this, but they also use caneras differently then anyone right now. Corvetter, Charger, and Wrangler are the 3 that I know give you the option, but only for track/off-road technically, not for a basic dash cam. The simple answer is there is no real reason besides “our teams have not found the need to add that functionality and can be achieved with the use if 3rd party accessories” or some corporate BS lol

 

[Johnologue]

I suspect Ford putting ADAS on the same system as media software is because the CAN bus can't handle ADAS.

As as a system integrator, I hate your usage of "integrated systems" in this context. These aren't integrated systems, these are systems that don't integrate and that's the problem.

I didn't mean to imply that was a good example of "systems being integrated".
I'm thinking about a huge subject I looked at a bunch and my thoughts are a bit hard to convey.

 

[KevinRS]

Basically as far as not using backup camera as a dash cam, it's a lot cheaper to just have that camera feed go direct to the video screen, and not record, manage memory, etc.

My thinking is I might want to go ahead and put in multiple cameras and have them all record. Rear, sides, and front. Possibly multiple of each. You could have one on tailgate, one rear roof, one front roof, one in grill, cameras on side mirrors to catch blind spots, etc. mirror cameras could be routed live to a screen when the turn signal is on.

 

[KJRaven]

I can not speak to the network protocol, i assume it is CAN based on previous comments.

However I directly asked their fleet team about the OBD2 port, and they confirmed that it will have OBD2 connector for diagnostics, and to connect GPS Telematics systems (samsara, geotab, verizon reveal, etc) for fleet monitoring.

 

[Protron]

Attempting to be advanced and review the SYSTEM, but can not find Apple iPhone App; now I see the problem with the word SLATE trade mark issues.

 

[bloo]

Good to know. It seems like CAN may be more robust than I'm giving it credit for.

CAN isn't going anywhere soon because it's reliable, scalable, and pretty much everywhere. The company I work for builds electric motor controllers that run on CANopen and J1939 flavors. These things go into applications like buses, forklifts, greensmowers, area lifts, and boat stabilization gyroscopes.

We've got an autonomous project that uses LIDAR and GPS, but they run on a dedicated bus. If the either subsystem fails, it can't take out the CANbus. Someone will be able to hop in the seat and drive it manually.

You seem like the person to ask: We've had mandatory back up cameras on the rear of our vehicles for awhile now. Why haven't we seen these cameras used as a rear-facing dashcam?
It seems like it would be super easy to integrate the existing camera with the existing media storge and collision sensors, and have a functional dashcam. I've always believed it was because those are 3 separate systems, and they don't interface well with each other, but you seem to indicate that's not the case. I've not even seen aftermarket options to use the existing rear camera with a 3rd party recording device.
It's frustrating that we're getting mandatory driver-facing cameras which can disable our vehicles based on driver behavior, and we still don't have OEM dashcams.

They prolly don't want to deal with various state and local laws governing their use. Some military, government, and DoD installations don't allow recording devices on premesis. Even some private companies with IP to protect may restrict them. I've had to surrender my phone and dashcam a couple of times when entering a customer site.

 

[KevinRS]

They prolly don't want to deal with various state and local laws governing their use. Some military, government, and DoD installations don't allow recording devices on premesis. Even some private companies with IP to protect may restrict them. I've had to surrender my phone and dashcam a couple of times when entering a customer site.

That makes some sense, so I was thinking that might be a major reason, but then I thought of Tesla. How do those sites handle military members, employees, and contractors who have Teslas?
I haven't visited a site that strict, though the local base has rules that you can't take photos on the flightline, a Tesla just driving on the main base roads would incidentally catch anything that is on the flightline, and upload it automatically.

 

[CustomCar]

They prolly don't want to deal with various state and local laws governing their use. Some military, government, and DoD installations don't allow recording devices on premesis. Even some private companies with IP to protect may restrict them. I've had to surrender my phone and dashcam a couple of times when entering a customer site.

It feels a bit backward when DMS cameras facing inside the vehicle are a required safety feature, and cameras facing outside the vehicle are an invasion of privacy.

 

[Johnologue]

It feels a bit backward when DMS cameras facing inside the vehicle are a required safety feature, and cameras facing outside the vehicle are an invasion of privacy.

No, the problem is OpSec. Privacy wouldn't be a problem.

Cameras facing outside the vehicle are a privacy issue (based on automaker privacy policies that claim broad rights to record everything and everyone around a vehicle), but any right to privacy hasn't been a regulatory priority for a long while now.