New Toyota Hilux: This Is Toyota's First Electric Pickup Truck

[E90400K]

Sadly, I think many interpret that to mean they can cross anywhere and don’t even have to look, just step out and go.
as a driver I can surely respect a crosswalk, so should pedestrian.

That is what exactly happened to me in California. The law in 1985 was if there is a pedestrian on standing on the curb at a crosswalk, they can step out into traffic, and the traffic has to stop. I had been in the state of California an entirety of 14 hours when this happened. Years later when I flew into SFO I noticed a sign hanging from the ceiling that said something to the effect "Since you are entering the State of California, you are responsible to know the laws of California". I laughed to myself, "Yeah, No Shit!"

 

[KevinRS]

The thing is streets were originally for both pedestrians and vehicles, the later citations for crossing where there isn't a crosswalk, "Jaywalking" were supposed to only be when there wasn't a marked crosswalk or intersection within a certain distance, and they were often selectively enforced, even recently, based on race. Cases in Beverly Hills, black people crossing got cited, while white people cross at the same location in front of officers without anyone even saying anything are part of the reason the jaywalking laws got overridden at the state level. Part of it is that any corner, even without a marked crosswalk, is an unmarked crosswalk unless there is signage saying not to cross there and to cross somewhere else.

Bicycles are supposed to use the road if there isn't a bicycle lane, and have the right of way there, though they are supposed to follow vehicle rules like signaling turns. In most areas because few pedestrians or bicyclists used those rights, drivers forgot they had them, and threaten to run them over, thinking the motor vehicle has priority right of way.

This all goes back to when the roads were shared between people on horses and on foot, and when cars were added to the mix. Yes as a pedestrian if you walk out in front of a car too close to stop you can be found at fault, but so are drivers who refuse to stop when they can see someone waiting to cross. There is an expectation that common sense will be used, both on the road and in the courts. Pedestrians can't expect cars to stop on a dime, and drivers need to allow pedestrians to cross.

 

[E90400K]

This makes so much sense...

 

[GaRailroader]

There is different respect for crosswalks in different areas. While visiting Boston I was surprised at how often cars would stop at a crosswalk because I looked like I wanted to cross there. I normally wait until it is clear and then cross when I have the right of way and I am not forcing a car to stop. If these Bostonian pedestrians come to Atlanta they are going to get run over. Unless it is signalled, Atlantans expect pedestrians to not be in the crosswalk when it is not clear.

I recall a cab ride from LaGuardia to Manhattan. The cab driver drove on the sidewalk leaving LaGuardia to get around parked cars to prove to me he was a true cabbie even though he spoke English. He cut through one of the boros to avoid tolls and was on the horn when a pedestrian was in the crosswalk up ahead, signaling to them to get out of the crosswalk. He said to me, ‘these pedestrians tell me they have the right of way, I tell them to tell that to the ambulance driver.’

 

[fuzzyweis]

150 miles in the WLTP cycle is more like 100 miles in regular use. That 59kWh pack is less than the original Chevy Bolt had, and it was one of the most efficient EVs getting nearly 4 m/kWh.

The Slate base pack will have over double that and estimating only 150 miles, and that's without the big bullnose front that Hilux has. That is not an attractive front end, another thing I like about the slate is big round headlights for a friendly face.

 

[Mac-Tyson]

If you're wondering "Why is it debuting in Thailand?", two reasons:

1. You know how American car manufacturers sometimes produce low-cost models in Mexico, like Ford does with the Maverick? Japanese manufacturers do the same thing in Thailand.

2. Thailand is one of the few countries outside of North America that loves pickups.

For that 2nd reason it’s why Thailand should be one of the first Asian countries Slate expands to as well as to Japan. Since honestly if you get a series of JDM Accessories made for the Slate Truck that will also benefit Slate sales in North America. Plus they have an easy path to selling in Japan by agreeing to partner with Toyota’s offer to sell American Vehicles through their dealership network. Australia is also a big potential market for Slate.

But I do think Slate will likely expand to the rest of North America before they expand to Europe, Asia, and Oceania though.

 

[Mac-Tyson]

This Is Toyota's First Electric Pickup Truck
(but not coming to the US)
InsideEV

Toyota Hilux debut in Thailand with new EV variant.
Single and Double-cab.
A single all-electric setup is offered, which consists of two electric motors—one for each axle—and a 59.2-kilowatt-hour battery pack.
The maximum power output is rated at 193 horsepower (144 kilowatts), with the front motor putting down 151 pound-feet of torque, while the rear drive unit is responsible for another 198 lb-ft.
Max payload capacity of the Toyota Hilux BEV is 1,576 pounds (715 kilograms), while the towing capacity is 3,527 lbs (1,600 kg).

Toyota says the new Hilux BEV will be able to go roughly 150 miles on a full charge, based on the WLTP cycle. That’s not a lot by modern EV standards, but it could prove plentiful for those who mainly use their trucks on short distances on farms or job sites.

It's not sold in the US, and the look isn't my taste.
Couldn't find the MSRP for the new EV in Thailand.
Interior looks decent.
I still prefer the look of the Slate and the minimal setup.

If Slate and Ford’s 30K EV Pickup (also Telo) is super successful like the demand is what they thought Full Size BEV Pickups were going to be, then I could see Toyota bringing this over to the US Market in the Interim until they develop an EV Tacoma. The fact is despite the enthusiasm for the Hilux among enthusiasts, Toyota believes that the Tacoma is better suited for the US Market. Otherwise they wouldn’t bother developing a new one each generation primarily aimed at the US Market. They would just build a Hilux in the US or Mexico for sale in the US.

 

[KevinRS]

While Thailand might be a market, I think it would be more likely they would just in a few years if successful, and the market is there for it, build them there for the asian market, or contract/license for a company there to do it.
Though if successful and there is demand there it's likely a local company will copy the idea quickly.

 

[Mac-Tyson]

While Thailand might be a market, I think it would be more likely they would just in a few years if successful, and the market is there for it, build them there for the asian market, or contract/license for a company there to do it.
Though if successful and there is demand there it's likely a local company will copy the idea quickly.

Yeah certain markets it makes sense to build them locally. For ASEAN markets building in Thailand makes a lot of sense. South America is easy just build in Brazil to avoid their tariffs and then sell to other South American Countries. Same Philosophy with India and South Asia. For sale in Europe, Middle East, Canada, etc I kind of would like for them to be American Made though. This truck is an expansion of Re-build Manufacturing for things to be made in America again. It's great for the truck sold in America to be built in America. But for countries where the higher msrp makes sense, I would love to see them exported from America as well to those markets. Especially now with Europe having 0% tariff on American Products. Plus the more economies of scale they build in the US the cheaper the Truck will be here and in those markets over time.