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really find this difficult to believe. 60% of incidents where someone's property is damaged is not reported? 60% percent of property damage victims just don't give a shit their property was damaged?
Would this not include minor fender benders were the two parties settled outside of insurance as well? In which case, no police report is filed.
 

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Would this not include minor fender benders were the two parties settled outside of insurance as well? In which case, no police report is filed.
It's plausible of course, but again its nationwide data from 20 years ago and not relevant to Waymo's report data for accidents reported or not reported for the four cities it operates in. If Waymo's safety record is so much better than the human threshold (i.e. 90% or above) then why even introduce it in their report findings to bolster their claims? Why not just leave the data set at the incidents reported to the police or reported by the police.
 

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It's plausible of course, but again its nationwide data from 20 years ago and not relevant to Waymo's report data for accidents reported or not reported for the four cities it operates in. If Waymo's safety record is so much better than the human threshold (i.e. 90% or above) then why even introduce it in their report findings to bolster their claims? Why not just leave the data set at the incidents reported to the police or reported by the police.
It's an industry standard benchmark they are using, and again, even without that 32 or 60% adjustment, wherever they applied it, even if you calculate without the adjustment they are still massively ahead of human driven cars.
 

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It's an industry standard benchmark they are using, and again, even without that 32 or 60% adjustment, wherever they applied it, even if you calculate without the adjustment they are still massively ahead of human driven cars.
I guess if we decide to trust Waymo's data then we can make a statement, that in a very narrowly focused application of machine driving, humans possibly don't perform as well.

Yet we are going to apply industry standards for extrapolated estimates of underreported accidents developed 20 and 30 years ago then we must see how Waymo machine drivers perform across the entire bandwidth of the driving environment, both in actual 4-season weather limitations and traffic situations influenced by imperfect road conditions.

I guess my perspective is still to expect more from us humans than give up and let machines take over. The less we expect from ourselves the shittier the world gets. Letting Waymo propaganda help influence that change, I will challenge the data. The perfect world still needs imperfection.
 
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Agreed. It could use fewer motor vehicle accidents though!
Better driver education would be a great start. Teaching vehicle placement, spatial awareness, and driver profiling are essential.
 

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Not sure if anyone else saw this, but Chris Barman gives more insights into the accessory marketplace and how they plan on monetizing it. Plus they will integrate 3rd party parts into the slate customizer so we can see everything in 3D :clap: I recommend watching the whole interview with her. Some is repeat info but she confirms some of our speculations and provides additional context.

This seems like an incredible idea. I am getting more and more excited with each nugget of info I come accross.

EDIT: The snippet I am referring to starts at around 4 hours 49 mins.

The tangents this thread took were quite entertaining 😂

@Chapman, thanks for posting! I missed this interview. I agree with you, every new piece of info gets me more excited about the possibilities!

It really sounds like Chris Barman and team GET IT. I’m sure eventually we’ll have to pay for things we wish we didn’t, but if they build a proper creator/diy community and marketplace, it will make every buyer’s experience exponentially better and even make future iterations of the Slate better.
 
 
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