Which generation will be the biggest owners of Slates?

[Doctors Do Little]

It would be far less expensive for the Government to simply pay the transportation costs of the small percentage of individuals who cannot meet reasonable driver skill tests and traffic behavior compliance.

Less expensive for whom? The tech is going to happen soon enough. Are you thinking it is easy to find safe/available/reliable drivers on demand at a reasonable price for disabled/elderly (not Uber or Uber Medical-which are nice ideas-until there is a wheelchair or complicated medical conditions involved)?

I’m for all of the above.

 

[sodamo]

It would be far less expensive for the Government to simply pay the transportation costs of the small percentage of individuals who cannot meet reasonable driver skill tests and traffic behavior compliance.

Pretty sure most cities have free or subsidized transportation for those who already don’t chose to work.

 

[Doctors Do Little]

Pretty sure most cities have free or subsidized transportation for those who already don’t chose to work.

Not talking about those who are cable of working (or driving). Truly disabled, elderly, or both. What the government has provided is laughable in the best circumstances.

 

[sodamo]

Not talking about those who are cable of working (or driving). Truly disabled, elderly, or both. What the government has provided is laughable in the best circumstances.

Absolutely agree, unfortunately support for the disabled/elderly/ both gets degraded by the other category In most places.

 

[KevinRS]

In theory, if all cars were automated, all would be following the speed limits and other laws, the near zero reaction time and predictability of other cars following the rules, and some level of inter-car communication, like car at the front of a line of cars immediately sends a signal that it's stopping for an obstruction so the whole line can begin breaking, automobile accident deaths would drop dramatically. I don't think we are anywhere close to that though, because yes things would have to be standardized, and universal.

 

[Doctors Do Little]

As soon as the coms fail in the chain, it would be chaos. There are too many variables to account for. Look what happens when Newark airport loses its comms for just 90 seconds, it throws the entire system off.

This is too true. When it is working, it would be slick. When not….steering wheel and foot peddling return.

 

[AZFox]

Full automation will, or at least should, never be allowed to happen because Americans who want to retain their personal freedom and agency will want to retain their transportation independence accordingly.

Reliance on the machines is one aspect. Mandatory reliance upon the people who own and control the machines (and therefore the people who ride in them) is another.

 

[slateya]

Full automation will, or at least should, never be allowed to happen because Americans who want to retain their personal freedom and agency will want to retain their transportation independence accordingly.

Reliance on the machines is one aspect. Mandatory reliance upon the people who own and control the machines (and therefore the people who ride in them) is another.

So circling back to generations buying a Slate, Alphas in the future because the Slate will be around for a good long while with autonomous driving not taking over all.

I participated in the tangent so no shade thrown.

 

[Luxrage]

The cavalier with the 4 speed instead of the 3, or better yet the manual, is actually a pretty decent car. Even with poor service they won't die. Ran ours without a working radiator fan for 6 months with no problems. Just had to keep it moving, but we don't have traffic.
Sadly their not particularly safe cars with all the huge SUVs running around.

I know for sure his was an automatic, but I never had the pleasure of driving it so I can't specify if it was 3 or 4 speed. He was on the golf team and I do know that trunk could swallow a golf bag. I'd still rate it above a friend of mine's Neon as at least the HVAC controls all didn't break during his ownership.

 

[KevinRS]

As soon as the coms fail in the chain, it would be chaos. There are too many variables to account for. Look what happens when Newark airport loses its comms for just 90 seconds, it throws the entire system off.

It would be mostly like what tesla and others are working on, but not skip the lidar sensors like tesla, more processing, the comms would be more of a peer to peer system and not having cell tower intermediaries, no comms would mean they fall back to a default system, tesla's setup but better. comms, working would allow shorter following distance and higher speeds, because cars wouldn't have to depend on just their own sensors.
This would all be a while off though, probably 20 years just to cycle through all the manual cars even if the tech was all built and tested and ready for release today.
So probably 30 or more years out unless at some point the government was to go all in and pour lots of money into it, which is unlikely.

 

[Adam W]

It would be mostly like what tesla and others are working on, but not skip the lidar sensors like tesla, more processing, the comms would be more of a peer to peer system and not having cell tower intermediaries, no comms would mean they fall back to a default system, tesla's setup but better. comms, working would allow shorter following distance and higher speeds, because cars wouldn't have to depend on just their own sensors.

This all sounds wonderful in theory, cars talking to other cars so they all can make better predictions about how to react to the situation. That is a ton of telemetry data though, and there's not a company on earth that I would trust not to find "alternative and lucrative" uses for that information. Adtech, warrantless tracking, and constant surveillance is bad enough already.

Besides, we already have the tech for cars in front to control the behavior of cars in back. It's called a train.

 

[Doctors Do Little]

This all sounds wonderful in theory, cars talking to other cars so they all can make better predictions about how to react to the situation. That is a ton of telemetry data though, and there's not a company on earth that I would trust not to find "alternative and lucrative" uses for that information. Adtech, warrantless tracking, and constant surveillance is bad enough already.

Besides, we already have the tech for cars in front to control the behavior of cars in back. It's called a train.

Yup...this is a rich topic. I keep trying to get the train to stop in front of my house....stupid tracks won't be built on this hill though. ;-)

 

[AZFox]

Yup...this is a rich topic.

Rich enough to deserve its own thread.

 

[Doctors Do Little]

Well, they will know where to go collect the bodies.

That's a one off of a Ron White punch line, "...'How far do you think this plane will go?' White: 'All the way to the scene of the crash!'".