How accessible are the vehicle control systems?

[IamSpotted]

I think the best use of an API would be less for vehicle controls, and more for monitors. Think an app for a commercial customer, an app that tracks where they drove that day, each stop tracked, with time stamps and mileage, all accessible without the need for a dongle unit (units like HUM by Verizon, or many insurance one etc.).

This probably just gave a developer a great idea now that I think about it and could make good money on commercial customers lol.

Consumers I could see this being useful for data logging, and phenomenal for diagnosis for repairs. Anything that allows the info of the vehicle to be more easily viewed is always a plus.

I see inputs through an API a slippery slop though, takes very little to create a dangerous scenario being able to lock brakes, apply accelerator pedal, etc. from just one bad actor to create a lawsuit and recalls

The only problem is that if you don't add in a GPS receiver, you won't know where they went. You'll know mileage, but the Slate doesn't have GPS or a cellular connection.

 

[IanNubbit]

The only problem is that if you don't add in a GPS receiver, you won't know where they went. You'll know mileage, but the Slate doesn't have GPS or a cellular connection.

No but every driver will have one their phone. No need to have another one. Realistically any fleet will use the Slate app, or use an API to connect to the vehicle. The vehicle itself does not need a secondary version if the same sensors that are going to get plugged into the vehicle for navigation on every drive

 

[phidauex]

Oh sweet Michigan’s based. Appears to be the SD220 or SD180. Both look very simple and robust

looking closer it seems it’s the same motor I’m already working on in the Wagoneer S and possibly the Charger Daytona. While the Slate is probably using the 180 at full tit (150hp) for lower cost. Build looks identical to the 220 in those Stellantis prodects. This is actually great news becauss they are Extremely easy to work on, and only failures we have been seeing with drive units is the seperate module on top of the motor, not the motor itself (I also solely blame Stellantis for those issues, not the manufacturer, they have found a way to cause issues on bullet proof parts like ZF trans)

Good eye. The SD180 3-in-1 looks to be a very good spec match, voltage range in the right zone, parking locker optional, and 150kW = 201hp, which is what Slate's early specs have all mentioned. It has a 12.44 final drive ratio and 1450 rpm peak output RPM, which would land around 127mph on the stock tires. Of course it can't hit that because A) the max voltage is 470V which is above the pack voltage, and B) it would have nearly 0 torque at max RPMs.

It would be very interesting to see a torque curve for it - the explanation for the 90mph top speed probably lies there.

https://en.jjeglobal.com/product/68.html

 

[Tom Sawyer]

No but every driver will have one [sic] their phone. No need to have another one. Realistically any fleet will use the Slate app, or use an API to connect to the vehicle. The vehicle itself does not need a secondary version if the same sensors that are going to get plugged into the vehicle for navigation on every drive

Are you suggesting that employees are to use their own personal mobile phone for the employer to use for tracking purposes? I wonder how that would fly with the employee? 🤔

 

[cadblu]

Are you suggesting that employees are to use their own personal mobile phone for the employer to use for tracking purposes? I wonder how that would fly with the employee? 🤔

I suspect fleet owners might provide company cell phones that can track vehicle location. Also in another thread it was hinted that a telematics option would be available for remote access.

 

[IanNubbit]

Good eye. The SD180 3-in-1 looks to be a very good spec match, voltage range in the right zone, parking locker optional, and 150kW = 201hp, which is what Slate's early specs have all mentioned. It has a 12.44 final drive ratio and 1450 rpm peak output RPM, which would land around 127mph on the stock tires. Of course it can't hit that because A) the max voltage is 470V which is above the pack voltage, and B) it would have nearly 0 torque at max RPMs.

It would be very interesting to see a torque curve for it - the explanation for the 90mph top speed probably lies there.

https://en.jjeglobal.com/product/68.html

Most speed limiters are tire based on new vehicles. Cars are more powerful then ever, and people are buying, nor do they need to, high speed rated tires

 

[NMNeil]

They have Michigan manufacturing

That's a relief, I'd hate it to be another brand proudly claiming it was made in the USA when in fact it's just assembled in the USA from imported foreign parts.

 

[NMNeil]

Most speed limiters are tire based on new vehicles. Cars are more powerful then ever, and people are buying, nor do they need to, high speed rated tires

Speed limiters are mandatory on new cars in the EU, and it's been proposed here many times.
https://www.cbtnews.com/speed-limiters-proposed-in-new-cars-more-government-control-looming/

 

[IanNubbit]

Speed limiters are mandatory on new cars in the EU, and it's been proposed here many times.
https://www.cbtnews.com/speed-limiters-proposed-in-new-cars-more-government-control-looming/

I understand they are mandatory, im saying they are less picked upon the vehicles near max speed, or a government limit, but by tire. See the Charger, normally was like 120, but the jailbreak hits 200+, yes it had a little more power (less then 20hp in some cases), the only change was a changed setting in thr computer, and tires to match. Same goes with the Jeep 392 Wrangler. People complain that it is limited to like 100mph, like yeah it’s got a 392 in it, but it’s on 35s that would literally deform and explode and high speeds