How to get a fully charged EV battery in 99 seconds!

[Tom Sawyer]

I don't see what the big deal is - this was solved long ago...

 

[SparkYellow]

I wonder if they can develop a quick eject feature for unruly passengers?

For safety reasons, I feel it is best to pull over at a police station and ask for help with removal.

The way the battery got rejected in this video makes it look like it is not securely fitted. 😬

I have ejected myself as a passenger on at least two occasions due to disagreement with the respective driver. Just got out and walked away at a red light or gas stop.

 

[sodamo]

What could be cool about a battery swap subscription service like this is it would reduce the anxiety of a degraded battery when buying a used EV. At the same time, if you buy one with a greatly depleted battery, and then subscribe, I'm sure the company would not be thrilled about receiving a junk battering. Interesting though.

I’m sure the company would properly evaluate your battery.

 

[KevinRS]

I don't think these swappable battery subscriptions will work with any but the cars designed for it, so there is little chance of a customer with a customer owned battery trying to subscribe in.

 

[SparkYellow]

Folks, I haven't seen AZFox posting for a few weeks. I am used to seeing their posts on at least five threads every day. I might not have read all of them though. 🧐

 

[Shrink36s]

I don't think these swappable battery subscriptions will work with any but the cars designed for it, so there is little chance of a customer with a customer owned battery trying to subscribe in.

Presumably, one can buy a car that uses the swappable batteries without the subscription and you just have your battery. If that car was sold used, the next owner may have the chance to get into the subscription network.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I don't think these swappable battery subscriptions will work with any but the cars designed for it, so there is little chance of a customer with a customer owned battery trying to subscribe in.

Presumably, one can [sic] the car that uses the swappable batteries without the subscription and you just have your battery. If that car was sold used, the next owner may have the chance to get into the subscription network.

EV designs & architecture are growing and changing. With every new generation design by manufacturers new technology is being implemented, much of it proprietary. Even battery chemistry is evolving with hopeful new stuff being dreamed up - to this point, I recall Chris Barman lamenting for new battery technology to come to market more quickly.

It was hard enough getting all the manufacturers to agree to a single charging port standard! Stateside, manufacturers used different charging port designs until the Tesla charging port became the standard adopted for North America. Imagine how that would work for standardizing battery packs?

Slate could be the leader here, though I doubt battery swaps were included in their design criteria of simple & cheap. But maybe... who knows? We'll know once we get closer to production.

 

[KevinRS]

EV designs & architecture are growing and changing. With every new generation design by manufacturers new technology is being implemented, much of it proprietary. Even battery chemistry is evolving with hopeful new stuff being dreamed up - to this point, I recall Chris Barman lamenting for new battery technology to come to market more quickly.

It was hard enough getting all the manufacturers to agree to a single charging port standard! Stateside, manufacturers used different charging port designs until the Tesla charging port became the standard adopted for North America. Imagine how that would work for standardizing battery packs?

Slate could be the leader here, though I doubt battery swaps were included in their design criteria of simple & cheap. But maybe... who knows? We'll know once we get closer to production.

This battery swapping system is likely going to be just one or a few manufacturers, selling on the model of leasing the battery. Probably leasing the whole car. Outright purchasing of the car with the battery probably wouldn't make sense, there is an additional cost in building the battery and car to be swapped, so it wouldn't be very competitive as a full purchase, going up against cars with more integrated batteries.

 

[sodamo]

I think the swappable battery could be very appealing to urban owners and others that can’t have own charging system or available charging is inconvenient.

 

[GaRailroader]

Folks, I haven't seen AZFox posting for a few weeks. I am used to seeing their posts on at least five threads every day. I might not have read all of them though. 🧐

Folks, I haven't seen AZFox posting for a few weeks. I am used to seeing their posts on at least five threads every day. I might not have read all of them though. 🧐

That is unusual. I hope all is ok. I sent him a direct message.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

This battery swapping system is likely going to be just one or a few manufacturers, selling on the model of leasing the battery. Probably leasing the whole car. Outright purchasing of the car with the battery probably wouldn't make sense, there is an additional cost in building the battery and car to be swapped, so it wouldn't be very competitive as a full purchase, going up against cars with more integrated batteries.

This brings up some questions:
1. Which manufacturers or group of manufacturers will agree on a battery design, layout, chemistry, etc. to make battery swapping marketable? What about different size battery packs - how would those be accounted for?
2. What battery swapping business model would draw the necessary investment here in North America to build out the battery changing stations and the necessary charging equipment?

This needs to work for long distance road trips, not just urban centers.

 

[KevinRS]

This brings up some questions:
1. Which manufacturers or group of manufacturers will agree on a battery design, layout, chemistry, etc. to make battery swapping marketable? What about different size battery packs - how would those be accounted for?
2. What battery swapping business model would draw the necessary investment here in North America to build out the battery changing stations and the necessary charging equipment?

This needs to work for long distance road trips, not just urban centers.

I haven't seen any evidence of any movement on this type of tech in the US. It would be an even bigger investment than charging stations have been, and the US just sprawls too much.
In China, it's likely to be built mainly in the population heavy areas, where they can expect heavy use, and for distance travel they have built out high speed rail, it's just not economical to drive a road trip.