Regen braking non adjustable ? Deal breaker for me.

[metroshot]

....... There's no one correct answer. It's 100% a personal preference. Every person will have a different experience depending on the vehicle and their individual driving conditions.
.......
So it will be interesting to actually test drive the Slate. I doubt the 1PD non-adjustable regen will be a deal killer for me, but understand why it could be for some.

You hit it on the head!

Agree - it is personal preference.

And yes, would definitely need to test drive it before i would buy.

Nausea while driving is not a fun drive....

 

[Doctors Do Little]

I wonder if the complaint is really aimed at adaptive cruise control and not 1PD. When I use autopilot (ACC)on my Model 3 in bumper to bumper traffic it can be quite jerky. Every time the car recognizes that the car in front of you has moved forward it accelerates harder than I would and then has to brake abruptly when the pace car stops again. I suppose that is really zero pedal driving.

I get your point. The first time I road in a Tesla X in 2018, the ACC was so severe on the interstate that I was nauseous. My boss, the driver, said that he had kind of gotten used to it and thought it was getting better. My wife didn't like the heavy regen on our golf cart and made me turn it off on my Lightning if she drove (like twice?) it. The ACC in stop and go traffic is a different animal and she likes it in her Telluride. I can't comment further until I drive the thing (Slate).

 

[Doctors Do Little]

You hit it on the head!

Agree - it is personal preference.

And yes, would definitely need to test drive it before i would buy.

Nausea while driving is not a fun drive....

Nausea while driving is a hard NO....who signs up for that in anything less than a travel to earth orbit?

 

[metroshot]

I wonder if the complaint is really aimed at adaptive cruise control and not 1PD. When I use autopilot (ACC)on my Model 3 in bumper to bumper traffic it can be quite jerky. Every time the car recognizes that the car in front of you has moved forward it accelerates harder than I would and then has to brake abruptly when the pace car stops again. I suppose that is really zero pedal driving.

Ford's Blue Cruise also has that same issue at low speeds and congested traffic.

I get jerked around so I never use the hands and foot free ACC for anything other than long road trips where speeds are high and spacing is safe.

 

[beatle]

I wonder if the complaint is really aimed at adaptive cruise control and not 1PD. When I use autopilot (ACC)on my Model 3 in bumper to bumper traffic it can be quite jerky. Every time the car recognizes that the car in front of you has moved forward it accelerates harder than I would and then has to brake abruptly when the pace car stops again. I suppose that is really zero pedal driving.

I don't see 1PD and ADAS being linked. ADAS doesn't care whether it uses regen or friction brakes. Tesla went through a pretty rocky period around 2022 when they switched to vision only, and the initial implementations on AP cars was just awful. I bought my 2019 Model S in late 2022 and it was horrendously nauseating in stop and go traffic. It eventually got better, but IMO it was never as good as the original Mobileye system in my 2015 at simply following another car.

I do think that ADAS can only be but so smooth, given how traffic can sometimes check up very quickly, and if you've gotta stop quick, smoothness is secondary to not running into the car in front of you.

 

[seaflyer]

I wonder if the complaint is really aimed at adaptive cruise control and not 1PD. When I use autopilot (ACC)on my Model 3 in bumper to bumper traffic it can be quite jerky. Every time the car recognizes that the car in front of you has moved forward it accelerates harder than I would and then has to brake abruptly when the pace car stops again. I suppose that is really zero pedal driving.

I have the same problem with my Venza but only in adaptive cruise control in stop and go traffic. I suspect the braking function in the cruise control does not like the proximity of the vehicle ahead. It can be feathered but requires very subtle throttle control.

 

[sodamo]

I get your point. The first time I road in a Tesla X in 2018, the ACC was so severe on the interstate that I was nauseous. My boss, the driver, said that he had kind of gotten used to it and thought it was getting better. My wife didn't like the heavy regen on our golf cart and made me turn it off on my Lightning if she drove (like twice?) it. The ACC in stop and go traffic is a different animal and she likes it in her Telluride. I can't comment further until I drive the thing (Slate).

Must be a challenge adapting to your fleet. I have a hard time keeping the controls straight just between two. 😁

 

[Tom Sawyer]

This raises the question: Is the nauseating effect a result of Tesla Full Self Driving, or regenerative braking under the control of a human operator?

 

[Doctors Do Little]

This raises the question: Is the nauseating effect a result of Tesla Full Self Driving, or regenerative braking under the control of a human operator?

I was conflating the two things. 1PD = Annoyance. ACC/FSD = Puke.

 

[metroshot]

My Honda Clarity PHEV has regen paddles behing the steering wheel which makes driving with 4 levels of regen possible.

Guess regen paddles won't happen on the Slate ?