Slate Auto vs Mutiny Motors

[CheapEV]

I would classify Mutiny in the same category as Ironwood. Nothing more than a poorly executed concept, or possibly a non-working mockup that will never materialize. I think when you begin to see Slates on the road, you may regret cancelling your reservation. Good luck.

The Ford Lighting is Dead. I will wait to see how far this will tow.

 

[CheapEV]

That's a concept and nothing more, I'd have at least left the deposit in, because that concept may disappear entirely before you'd have even had to make a decision in around a year.
Telo at least has built A prototype, but they are far from production, and plan on slow production.

Ford is selling new E-Transit Vans for $30k, I bought one last year for $25k. This year going to buy Promaster EV under $20k (hoping for $15k). EV prices are declining with 1 million used ev's coming back to market from lease and not enough demand. I do want newer and better EVs and willing to pay more if they offer features that make financial sense. Most luxury EVs are way overpriced and will plummet in price soon enough. Even Mercedes EQS EVs lightly used are going less than $30k. I call it the EV Blood Bath. I can't wait for BYD Seagull (Chevy Bolt) to come as they are selling under $7k NEW in China currently and are a very good EV.

 

[CheapEV]

I would classify Mutiny in the same category as Ironwood. Nothing more than a poorly executed concept, or possibly a non-working mockup that will never materialize. I think when you begin to see Slates on the road, you may regret cancelling your reservation. Good luck.

I just like the open source nature of his idea AND Japanese Kei Trucks. I have always wanted one which led me to Slate as it was being modeled after a small Toyota Truck (always been a super fan of Toyota hilanders). I keep searching for EV Trucks that can take a real beating for work purposes. I have an E-Transit currently which I love but it is for big tasks (146" wheelbase, top speed 85mph and 3000lb cargo capacity, i have towed 8500lbs with it but killed range) and would want a small Kei truck for daily driving if it comes with proper airbags all over. If not forget it.

 

[CheapEV]

These are also going under $30k new but I am not a fan:
Living With A Chevy Brightdrop 400! | The Van Of The Future!

My dream vehicle is an EV Camper Van that I can use as a mobile home and travel the country when I have time. Unfortunately, that market isn't being addressed and people have to make EV Camper Vans for the time being, probably for next 5+ years. My current EVs are being used for work not for pleasure.

 

[GaRailroader]

These are also going under $30k new but I am not a fan:
Living With A Chevy Brightdrop 400! | The Van Of The Future!

My dream vehicle is an EV Camper Van that I can use as a mobile home and travel the country when I have time. Unfortunately, that market isn't being addressed and people have to make EV Camper Vans for the time being, probably for next 5+ years. My current EVs are being used for work not for pleasure.

Certainly a Kei truck and an oversized box van are on opposite ends of the spectrum.

 

[ZuliMuli]

@CheapEV Kind of sounds like the Slate was never something up your ally, it's not changed since announcement but from these comments you are all about things it never was or would be.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, and there's clearly a market for what you like so there are other like minded people out there.

Now yes the slate does hope to have a niche group of commercial customer, which I don't personally see working out as even a small cleaning service would do better with a van setup as I'm sure you know, but it's not an all or nothing thing.

All of this to say nothing you have posted here makes me feel like the Slate ever had something that was up your ally.

 

[CheapEV]

When slate was announced it was up my alley, a small daily driver that had 3d printable parts. I liked most of it except not having automatic window motors. I haven't seen hand cranks since pre 1980 cars. I liked the idea of using my phone or wish they would put a larger screen to mirror my phone wirelessly. I am a fan of the game changers in the industry, I originally wanted to be a Tesla fan but for the life of me couldn't as hard as I tried. Also, the biggest mistake was overcharging for their vehicles. I had secretly hoped slate would get their price to $19.9k through reducing manufacturing costs. Now Ford is promising a $30k EV to compete with Slate. After owning an E-Transit I like Ford EV Tough.

 

[KevinRS]

Lack of power windows shouldn't be an issue, it's designed to be upgraded. The Ford vehicle is still vaporware, maybe less than that, we haven't even seen drawings of it.
Dropping the price of the Slate or any other incoming vehicle is going to be difficult with tariffs and the market uncertainty that goes with them.