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This directly affects few, but indirectly affects everybody. For those that don't want the background, TLDR is at the bottom in bold.

For those not familiar with autocross (autox), it's this:


The easy answer for ensuring Sports Car Club of America (SCCA) eligibility, which most other clubs base their rules on for insurance reasons, is the track width being greater than the height. Track width meaning distance between the center line of the tires, not the vehicle width. Slate currently lists the vehicle width as only 1.3" wider than it is tall. Even if the tires were the widest part, which they're not, it would still be ~8.3" too narrow at the standard height and probably ~6" for the lowest. However, that guideline is a conservative estimate based on the way ICEV's carry their weight. BEV's carry their weight much lower in the chassis, so may still be sufficiently rollover resistant.

The ultimate autox eligibility decision is based on something called the Static Stability Factor (SSF). This is determined by half the track width divided by the center of gravity (CG) height. But that requires knowing the CG, which is not commonly publish for most cars. Slate does sit a bit high, but visually more than actually with the chassis bottom hanging below the body side sills. SCCA lists 1.3 as the minimum allowable SSF.

Well get on with it then, what is the Slate SSF? Slate Engineering actually seemed enthusiastic about this idea and providing a meaningful reply. Understandably, they still can't get into details on specific configurations or give final numbers yet. But what they did do is confirm that they expect an SSF of greater than 1.3 for even a (presumably Blank) Slate on the standard suspension. They also stated that once the numbers are finalized, they'll make that information available to customers.

So what does this all mean? It mean that not only will a (non-lifted) Slate be autox eligible, but more generally that it will be substantially rollover resistant from a safety standpoint... Regardless of whether that's from high performance driving or emergency avoidance maneuvers.
 
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Oh, and for the record: That extraordinary bit of driving in the linked video is very much NOT me. :CWL:
 
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I used to Autocross a lot back in my BMW e30 days...

Even if the SCCA decides to allow the Slate, the real question is...

Will there be a way to disable traction control? Autocross relies on being able to rotate the vehicle.

I sincerely hope there is a simple switch, just like in the old days... 'TSC Off'. Without that, no hope I'm afraid. That's my biggest complaint with most modern vehicles.
 

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What class would it be in?
What would it be running against?
 
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I agree with being able properly turn traction and stability control off, without them re-engaging regardless of how it's being driven. In addition to autox, I'd also like try hitting up the local drift club too.

Like most cars, Slate has a traction control button on the dash. Generally press once is 'reduced', while press and hold (~3 sec) is 'fully' disabled. Slate doesn't seem like the kind of company to overthink things like this, like some other manufacturers do, and hopefully they stay true to form here. The one thing that might be nice to keep on is some simple e-LSD functionality only.

It's too early to tell for classing. If they don't bother to classify it directly, trucks not otherwise classified (NOC) go to HS... Although I think Slate is different enough from most 'trucks' that SCCA will want to clarify once they're actually available. The closest point of comparison is probably the Bolt, which is also HS. If they think this will be appreciably faster, even if only when it has the lowered suspension and/or (wider) 20's on low profile tires, I could see it ending up in GS (or DS?) as well. The top cars in HS are things like Civic Sport and Elantra Sport. The top cars in GS are things like VW GTI and Civic Si. The top cars in DS are things like GR86, BRZ, Civic Type R, and Elantra N.

I'm not too worried about classing though. Few cars will ever get to be the 'it' car for their class, and even that can be fleeting. Slate will probably be classed at least somewhat 'uncompetitively', and that's ok with me. At the local level the driver is MUCH more important than the car. Not that I would be upset if it got classed nationally competitively, but I am really just looking for something I can take out and have fun with locally once in a while.
 
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The lowering kit will help a lot.
Too bad it will not be all wheel drive.
 
 
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