Tesla Model S and X being cancelled by next quarter

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Profits aside, they're both old designs. Aren't they selling in much lower numbers than Models 3 & Y?
 

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They always sold fewer S/X than the 3/Y. Tesla kept them around for several years just for sentimental reasons.

Despite the ongoing improvements to performance, exterior styling, lighting, and ADAS, it's a real shame what they did to the interior in 2021, primarily the steering wheel/yoke. Even though they later allowed people to get a wheel (and even made it the default) the capacitive buttons and lack of a shifter stalk made a 3rd Model S a hard no for me.
 

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Tesla is at the same time both the most amazing company ever, the most inexplicable company ever, and the most head scratching company ever. Same for their CEO. Sometimes he achieves amazing things. Sometimes he's a loose cannon with a lit fuse. But he's never boring.

Model 3 and Y sell in the millions. Then they lose their shirt on the Cybertruck. I don't predict the future. But I sure will be watching the "cybercab" with fascination. Don't have a horse in that race. Is it a hit? Is it a miss? Either way it's gonna be a great movie.
 

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I would say Slate is an example of how many people want a shift to a simplified platform. The Model S and X are the most extra-heavy-luxury models Tesla sells.
 

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They always sold fewer S/X than the 3/Y. Tesla kept them around for several years just for sentimental reasons.

Despite the ongoing improvements to performance, exterior styling, lighting, and ADAS, it's a real shame what they did to the interior in 2021, primarily the steering wheel/yoke. Even though they later allowed people to get a wheel (and even made it the default) the capacitive buttons and lack of a shifter stalk made a 3rd Model S a hard no for me.
I remember in 2013 going to the Tesla "store" at the Tysons Corner shopping mall in Virginia and seeing the Model S body in white that was on display. It was fascinating to see to see the construction of it in its pure aluminum form. The formed aluminum panels, the hydroformed aluminum frame rails, and most interesting, the front-end support frame (usually called the "core support" on a conventional ICEV). I thought to myself there must be a high rejection rate of that part considering the difficulty to manufacture such a unique and large spindly aluminum casting. I was not aware of Tesla's Gigacasting back in 2012/2013 (I'm not even sure Tesla had developed it by that time - Wikipedia says 2018). I can find no references that the Model S and Model X use Gigacasting for parts. I'd bet the decision is mostly based on production cost of the Model S/X chassis. It must just be too expensive in comparison to the Model 3 and Y production costs that use the Gigacasting process.
 
 
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