Letas
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Top-down vs bottom-up. Fair enough.![]()
JK.
My comment wasn't about that. It was about describing all sorts of car shoppers who wouldn't buy a Slate being neither necessary nor helpful.
Top-down vs bottom-up. Fair enough.![]()
JK.
My comment wasn't about that. It was about describing all sorts of car shoppers who wouldn't buy a Slate being neither necessary nor helpful.
Maybe you have not noticed Maverick does not come in a 100% EV configuration. I want a 100% EV for a commuter.No one has made a good argument that the Maverick is not a competitor with the Slate Truck.
If you don't like Ford, that's a good argument.No one has made a good argument that the Maverick is not a competitor with the Slate Truck.
Not to be confused with,”but a Maverick…”If you don't like Ford, that's a good argument.
If you don't like stealerships and prefer direct-to-consumer, that's a good argument.
If you prefer a smaller vehicle, that's a good argument.
If you prefer low-tech simplicity and no telematics, that's a good argument.
If you don't like crippled features that require subcription fees, that's a good argument.
If you prefer RWD rather than FWD, that's a good argument.
If you prefer two doors rather than four, that's a good argument.
If you want to own a unique vehicle from a scrappy startup, that's a good argument.
If you prefer the brilliant "timeless and familiar form", that's a good argument.
If you want lower maintenance burden (and cost), that's a good argument.
If you prefer lower cost-of-ownership, that's a good argument.
If you want to change your car's color every once in a while, that's a good argument.
If you want a car built in the United States rather than Mexico, that's a good argument.
If you want something highly customizable with DIY Accessories, that's a good argument.
...and those are just for starters.
But a Mavrick, according to Ford, does not have a subscription fee, only the Mach E, Explorer, and Super Duty trucks have Ford Connect as a subscription. And since the Slate has no connectivity whatsoever, even if a Maverick had the connectivity package one would not have to buy it and they would be evenly disconnected just as much with a Slate.If you don't like Ford, that's a good argument.
If you don't like stealerships and prefer direct-to-consumer, that's a good argument.
If you prefer a smaller vehicle, that's a good argument.
If you prefer low-tech simplicity and no telematics, that's a good argument.
If you don't like crippled features that require subcription fees, that's a good argument.
If you prefer RWD rather than FWD, that's a good argument.
If you prefer two doors rather than four, that's a good argument.
If you want to own a unique vehicle from a scrappy startup, that's a good argument.
If you prefer the brilliant "timeless and familiar form", that's a good argument.
If you want lower maintenance burden (and cost), that's a good argument.
If you prefer lower cost-of-ownership, that's a good argument.
If you want to change your car's color every once in a while, that's a good argument.
If you want a car built in the United States rather than Mexico, that's a good argument.
If you want something highly customizable with DIY Accessories, that's a good argument.
...and those are just for starters.
I'd like to push back on this point specifically. Even if doesn't have a subscription, I'd have a hard time believing the Maverick doesn't have a way to phone home data. But this isn't too much of an argument as we don't know 100% if the Slate will do this either until someone gets one and digs into it.But a Mavrick, according to Ford, does not have a subscription fee, only the Mach E, Explorer, and Super Duty trucks have Ford Connect as a subscription. And since the Slate has no connectivity whatsoever, even if a Maverick had the connectivity package one would not have to buy it and they would be evenly disconnected just as much with a Slate.
I thought it did because I read this:But a Mavrick, according to Ford, does not have a subscription fee
My source was Ford's website for the 2025 models that have the Ford Connectivity option. But again, one does not have to buy the Ford Connectivity subscription and not having the subscription is certainly not "crippling". Crippling would actually mean, if we use the Webster's definition of the word, the Maverick owner would have to pay a monthly/annual/one-time subscription fee to drive the automobile; it would not operate without the subscription. But again, not having the Ford Connectivity subscription puts the Slate on even footing regarding lack of connectivity. One can easily use their smart phone to navigate just the same as one would with the Slate.I thought it did because I read this:
According to sources familiar with the matter, the 2026 Ford Maverick offers the Ford Connectivity Package as an option on all trims, meaning every model is outfitted with the proper hardware to support the bundle's features. Specifically, the Ford Connectivity Package includes Unlimited Wi-Fi Hotspot capabilities, Audio and Video Streaming, Voice Assistant, and Entertainment.That package comes at a cost, however. While a one-year subscription is complimentary beginning at the warranty start date, if 2026 Ford Maverick owners want to continue its use, they must shell out for a subscription to the service. The one-time purchase option for $745 ensures service for seven years from the warranty start date, but buyers should note that it cannot be transferred to a different VIN and requires activation via the Ford app.
Source
I have a 2022 Bronco. If the concern is privacy issues, it is easily solvable by turning off the modem. That is what I've done with my Bronco, which I did to avoid software updates. My Bronco has no crippling subscription fees required to operate it.I'd like to push back on this point specifically. Even if doesn't have a subscription, I'd have a hard time believing the Maverick doesn't have a way to phone home data. But this isn't too much of an argument as we don't know 100% if the Slate will do this either until someone gets one and digs into it.