Is Slate's absence of telemetry an important distinctive feature?

[KevinRS]

No.

"passively monitoring the performance of a driver of a motor vehicle to accurately identify whether that driver may be impaired" was their stated purpose.

All cars, and it would have started next year.

Edit:
Something regarding alcohol impairment detection systems did get passed, just not the driver-facing cameras by 2027 that I remembered.

A provision within the $1.5 trillion Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act that was passed by the 117th Congress and signed into law by President Joe Biden on November 15, 2021 mandates the implementation of advanced technology to prevent drunk and impaired driving in all new vehicles. This legislation, which includes the "Reduce Impaired Driving for Everyone Act" (RIDE Act), directs the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) to establish a safety standard within three years for technology that can passively detect driver impairment or blood alcohol concentration (BAC) levels at or above the legal limit, and prevent or limit vehicle operation if impairment is detected.

It's not looking like that ride act part has moved very far, I don't think the technology is there, short of actually making you blow into a tube like the systems they put in cars of a very few people convicted of DUI. One of the big problems with DUI seems to be that judges are lax with enforcing penalties.
Back in driver's ed they made it sound like 1st DUI your license is suspended and you do jail time, mandatory.
Now you hear about someone killing people in a DUI crash and they have 3 offenses already. Clearly when they repeated, they proved they weren't going to change, and their car should be sold in exchange for a long term bus pass.

 

[AZFox]

It's not looking like that ride act part has moved very far

How far past "passed by the 117th Congress and signed into law by President Joe Biden on November 15, 2021" could it go?!

It's the law of the land, and it's being implemented.

 

[AZFox]

I asked two AI bots about the mandatory DUI kill switch law. Here's my query:

Did the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act include a law that mandates vehicles to detect driver impairment?​

My wording wasn't so great now that I look at it, but it gets the point across. The first AI bot played possum and wouldn't answer. The second one spilled the beans.

Infrastructure Act and Driver Impairment Laws​

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Yes, the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act includes a provision that mandates the development and eventual implementation of technology to detect driver impairment in new vehicles.​

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The law requires the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) to establish a Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) for "advanced drunk and impaired driving prevention technology".​

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This technology must be capable of passively monitoring a driver's performance to detect impairment or passively and accurately measuring the driver's blood alcohol concentration (BAC), or both, and preventing or limiting vehicle operation if impairment is detected.​

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The Act directed NHTSA to issue a final rule within three years of the law's passage (by November 2024), with automakers then having two to three years to comply once the rule is finalized.​

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As of early 2024, NHTSA had not yet issued the final rule, instead releasing an advance notice of proposed rulemaking to gather information, citing the current state of the technology.​

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The final form of the technology—whether it involves breath-based sensors, touch-based sensors, camera-based monitoring for drowsiness or distraction, or a combination—has not been specified in the legislation and will be determined through the rulemaking process.​

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The goal is to make this technology standard equipment in all new passenger vehicles.​

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Contrary to some claims, the law does not include a "kill switch" accessible by law enforcement to remotely shut down vehicles.​

Edit:
Need references? Submit a better-written version of my question and see references galore.

Does the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act include a law that mandates technology in vehicles that detects driver impairment and disables the vehicle?​

 

[Trace26]

No.

"passively monitoring the performance of a driver of a motor vehicle to accurately identify whether that driver may be impaired" was their stated purpose.

All cars, and it would have started next year.

Edit:
Something regarding alcohol impairment detection systems did get passed, just not the driver-facing cameras by 2027 that I remembered.

A provision within the $1.5 trillion Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act that was passed by the 117th Congress and signed into law by President Joe Biden on November 15, 2021 mandates the implementation of advanced technology to prevent drunk and impaired driving in all new vehicles. This legislation, which includes the "Reduce Impaired Driving for Everyone Act" (RIDE Act), directs the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) to establish a safety standard within three years for technology that can passively detect driver impairment or blood alcohol concentration (BAC) levels at or above the legal limit, and prevent or limit vehicle operation if impairment is detected.

When was the automatic detection supposed to be in cars? We have a 2024 Mazda CX-90 and if it senses you might be tired it will give you a notification to "take a rest". But other than the notification it doesn't do anything else.

 

[AZFox]

When was the automatic detection supposed to be in cars? We have a 2024 Mazda CX-90 and if it senses you might be tired it will give you a notification to "take a rest". But other than the notification it doesn't do anything else.

I think it was supposed to be in all new vehicle by MY2027 (or calendar year 2027, maybe).

The NHTSA was given three years to "issue a final rule". That time period ended November of last year and it apparently hasn't happened yet.

I don't know much about it, other than getting the heeby jeebies when the stories came out about mandating every car to have a driver-facing camera that dan disable the car. Orwell, much?

 

[Doctors Do Little]

Our ‘23 Kia Telluride does hourly back massage but also gives an annoying “time for a break” message every 90 minutes or so, too. I’d like to delete that helpful reminder!

 

[cadblu]

I typically have good posture and proper seating position while driving. The other day I received a few warnings on my Lexus;

"Sit Up, Pay Attention” and “Driver inattentive.” This is part of Toyota’s “driver safety sense”camera / IR detection system along with many other features.

So yes, my car treats me like a child. Although annoying, I think the benefits outweigh the disadvantages. Don’t expect any of these on the Slate.

 

[Imhotep]

I don't know much about it, other than getting the heeby jeebies when the stories came out about mandating every car to have a driver-facing camera that dan disable the car. Orwell, much?

What’s next?

I figured my 2008 Prius would be the last car I’d ever buy, and my ‘74 GMC K1500 could keep going forever so long as our future turns into a Mad Max scenario. But the Slate got my attention because realistically, an EV without all the gizmos and safety mandated add-ons will get me through a future so grim that I have to be drunk.

Just kidding. Sort of.

 

[Adam W]

Don’t expect any of these on the Slate.

With my standard 150 mile battery, I won’t be driving for hours on end without a break anyway. 🤣

 

[KevinRS]

How far past "passed by the 117th Congress and signed into law by President Joe Biden on November 15, 2021" could it go?!

It's the law of the land, and it's being implemented.

As others have posted, the "law" required the agency to make a rule, they didn't, because the tech isn't there, and would at this point add thousands of dollars to the cost of each vehicle, so it's in limbo.
Just like the recently passed "law" to move a space shuttle to Texas, ignoring that there is no longer a way to transport it, the carrier aircraft were partially or fully dismantled, it would cost at first estimate around 10 times the amount the "law" set aside for it, and the shuttle doesn't belong to the government anymore. What I am wondering is where that money is going?