Playing devil's advocate here, comparing Slate Truck vs. Ford Maverick

[danielt1263]

I'm looking for a vehicle that is:

• New
• Can tow without voiding the warranty (I only need to tow 600#).
• Has 200+HP

The raw fact is that the Maverick doesn't satisfy those requirements. Neither does the Santa Cruz. What is the least expensive vehicle that does?

 

[zipn]

Mav Can tow 2000 lbs standard or 4000 with the tow option.

 

[Letas]

I'm looking for a vehicle that is:

• New
• Can tow without voiding the warranty (I only need to tow 600#).
• Has 200+HP

The raw fact is that the Maverick doesn't satisfy those requirements. Neither does the Santa Cruz. What is the least expensive vehicle that does?

Your 200 hp requirement is completely arbitrary and certainly seems to be intentionally exclusionary to the 191hp maverick engine.

To answer your question. Maverick Lobo or Tremor with the ecoboost. 238 hp. Or a Jeep Compass Sport. 26k

 

[danielt1263]

I was looking at the Jeep Compass Sport this morning. Apparently the $26k doesn't include the tow package and the tow package is not available at that trim. To get the tow package, one must get the Trailhawk trim? That's $35k (including the tow package). In either case, I have to add the around $3K delivery and deanship fee.

My 200 hp requirement may be arbitrary, but every vehicle I've owned (except one) had at least 200 hp and I see no reason to want less.

 

[YDR37]

I'm looking for a vehicle that is:

• New
• Can tow without voiding the warranty (I only need to tow 600#).
• Has 200+HP

The raw fact is that the Maverick doesn't satisfy those requirements. Neither does the Santa Cruz. What is the least expensive vehicle that does?

The cheapest possible Maverick does not satisfy those requirements -- but they can be met by adding just $125 to the base price.

According to Ford's build & price website for the Maverick, the least expensive option is a base XL with FWD/2.5L Hybrid engine for $30,535 (MSRP plus all fees). OK, this configuration only has 191 hp, so slightly below the OP's "200+ HP" requirement.

But the XL can be switched to an AWD/2.0L I-4 Ecoboost (turbocharged) configuration for only $125 more. That configuration has 250 hp, with towing capacity of 2,000 lbs. Total cost is $30,660 (MSRP plus fees). Would seem to meet (and exceed) the requirements.

There is a package to boost the towing capacity to 4,000 lbs, but that raises the cost to $32,200, and seems unnecessary if the towing requirement is only 600 lbs.

 

[YDR37]

The cheapest possible Maverick does not satisfy those requirements -- but they can be met by adding just $125 to the base price.

According to Ford's build & price website for the Maverick, the least expensive option is a base XL with FWD/2.5L Hybrid engine for $30,535 (MSRP plus all fees). OK, this configuration only has 191 hp, so slightly below the OP's "200+ HP" requirement.

But the XL can be switched to an AWD/2.0L I-4 Ecoboost (turbocharged) configuration for only $125 more. That configuration has 250 hp, with towing capacity of 2,000 lbs. Total cost is $30,660 (MSRP plus fees). Would seem to meet (and exceed) the requirements.

Correction: the "2K Trailer Hitch Receiver with 4-Pin Connector" isn't standard on the XL, it's an additional option for $100. So you would actually have to add $225 to the base price, and so the total rises to $30,760 (MSRP plus fees).

 

[zipn]

MAVs are selling at employee price (below MSRP) right now, with no haggling.

 

[YDR37]

MAVs are selling at employee price (below MSRP) right now, with no haggling.

For example, this dealer in Missouri is currently advertising a new 2025 Maverick XL AWD with the 2L EcoBoost (250 hp) for $27,636. The ad doesn't mention the 2K tow hitch, so you would probably have to budget another $100 for that.

 

[E90400K]

I was looking at the Jeep Compass Sport this morning. Apparently the $26k doesn't include the tow package and the tow package is not available at that trim. To get the tow package, one must get the Trailhawk trim? That's $35k (including the tow package). In either case, I have to add the around $3K delivery and deanship fee.

My 200 hp requirement may be arbitrary, but every vehicle I've owned (except one) had at least 200 hp and I see no reason to want less.

But even the hybrid XL Maverick at 191 HP weighs less than the 201 HP Slate will and will have a better power to weight ratio.

 

[YDR37]

But even the hybrid XL Maverick at 191 HP weighs less than the 201 HP Slate will and will have a better power to weight ratio.

Yes, the hybrid Maverick could realistically perform as well as a Slate, despite its lower hp, given the likely greater weight of the Slate. For example:

Maverick with 2.5L Hybrid, 191 hp: 0-60 in 7.7 seconds (according to Car and Driver)
Slate with single electric motor, 201 hp: 0-60 in 8.0 seconds (according to Slate).

A Maverick with the turbo I-4, 250 hp, is significantly quicker than either, with 0-60 in 5.9 seconds.

 

[zipn]

Our hybrid AWD lariat is quick enough. The electric motors’ instant torque combines with the ice when needed. It also goes full ev mode when it can, with some trips at lower speeds running the ev only maybe 30% of the time. To ford’s ( and Toyota’s) credit it’s seamless between ev and ev+ ice and ice only.

I maintain that the mav is NOT the slates main competition. It’s not an EV!

Slate will be compared to Bolts, Kia EVs, Hyundai, and VW EVs. All the 25-35 k entry level EVs that are due out in the next year or 2. Some serious competition like the bolt and ev4.

 

[danielt1263]

Well, I will keep the upgraded Maverick and Compass in mind when the time comes for me to buy, but there is nothing indicating that they will be less expensive than the Slate, especially once you figure in the about $3k delivery and dealer fee. If they are all in the mid twenties, I would likely get a Slate just because it's electric.

I have also looked into the other EVs, after all "truck" is not in my list of requirements and some of the EV cars are rated for towing, but I haven't had much luck there...

All that said, I scoff at those who bitch that Slate has no infotainment installed. Frankly, my phone is a better infotainment system than I've seen in any vehicle at any price. We have an infotainment system in our family car and we never use it.