The Donut Story Continues.

[sodamo]

What brand of lawn tractor do you have? Assuming it's electric.

Know you didn’t ask me, but…z6-52” EGO Zero Turn with the 56v batteries. Charged from our off grid solar.

 

[RetiredOnPaper]

What brand of lawn tractor do you have? Assuming it's electric.

Greenworks, 60V 42 inch Crossover riding mower. I have about 3 acres that I mow. About 1 acre of lawn and 1 acre of orchard I keep sort of mowed, and 1 acre that I just put the deck up a few notches and use it as a bush hog. One charge will give me 1+ acres. When not mowing it makes a peppy go cart (Wish I had it when I was 14.) With a 2 inch receiver in the front it is great for moving trailers around. Had it for 5 years now and still going strong.

 

[clofan]

I'll admit I'm pretty gullible but the internet is so damn down on Donut. Maybe they really did crack the code, it's like most people don't believe that is possible for a small company. It happens, though. It's how some small companies become big companies.

The first test result, all the comments were "but the heat!". The second test result, heat is proved to be not an issue (within the parameters of the test, which yes, was only a few cycles) so the goalposts moved to "but the longevity!" or "but the mass production scale!". Granted, 100k cycles is a boastful claim but there has literally not been enough time passed from the invention of the battery to test that many cycles. All you can do is estimate and extrapolate from the test you've been able to perform.

Donut is handling the media circus well, and I imagine each week they will denounce the previous week's naysayers until a couple months down the line people start realizing it could be true. Or, they'll do a rug pull and all the investors will be upset and you can tell me I Told You So.

I dunno. I'm not an investor, I have no dog in this fight. I hope these batteries can be retrofitted to the Slate and other EVs so as to not disrupt too much the fragile and fledgling industry. It will be a while down the road. Maybe when I take delivery of my Slate we will know for sure if these things are the real deal, but at that point I won't care because I won't be shopping for EVs!

 

[metroshot]

I'll admit I'm pretty gullible but the internet is so damn down on Donut. Maybe they really did crack the code, it's like most people don't believe that is possible for a small company. It happens, though. It's how some small companies become big companies.

The first test result, all the comments were "but the heat!". The second test result, heat is proved to be not an issue (within the parameters of the test, which yes, was only a few cycles) so the goalposts moved to "but the longevity!" or "but the mass production scale!". Granted, 100k cycles is a boastful claim but there has literally not been enough time passed from the invention of the battery to test that many cycles. All you can do is estimate and extrapolate from the test you've been able to perform.

Donut is handling the media circus well, and I imagine each week they will denounce the previous week's naysayers until a couple months down the line people start realizing it could be true. Or, they'll do a rug pull and all the investors will be upset and you can tell me I Told You So.

I dunno. I'm not an investor, I have no dog in this fight. I hope these batteries can be retrofitted to the Slate and other EVs so as to not disrupt too much the fragile and fledgling industry. It will be a while down the road. Maybe when I take delivery of my Slate we will know for sure if these things are the real deal, but at that point I won't care because I won't be shopping for EVs!

Yes, agree it will be a while down the road.

Being able to replace current battery tech with SS batteries is promising, but the costs for final production will be the true test.

 

[bartflossom]

Sorry for posting videos without a quick summary of what you can expect. My bad.

This guy's analysis is easy to follow and brings up interesting ways to fit a chemistry into what the tests are showing, leading to a possibility of sodium ion. It would explain a lot of the numbers but not the giant leap in energy density, unless that's because of the carbon nanotube stuff Nordic Nano supposedly came up with.

 

[bloo]

I'll admit I'm pretty gullible but the internet is so damn down on Donut. Maybe they really did crack the code, it's like most people don't believe that is possible for a small company. It happens, though. It's how some small companies become big companies.

The first test result, all the comments were "but the heat!". The second test result, heat is proved to be not an issue (within the parameters of the test, which yes, was only a few cycles) so the goalposts moved to "but the longevity!" or "but the mass production scale!". Granted, 100k cycles is a boastful claim but there has literally not been enough time passed from the invention of the battery to test that many cycles. All you can do is estimate and extrapolate from the test you've been able to perform.

Donut is handling the media circus well, and I imagine each week they will denounce the previous week's naysayers until a couple months down the line people start realizing it could be true. Or, they'll do a rug pull and all the investors will be upset and you can tell me I Told You So.

I dunno. I'm not an investor, I have no dog in this fight. I hope these batteries can be retrofitted to the Slate and other EVs so as to not disrupt too much the fragile and fledgling industry. It will be a while down the road. Maybe when I take delivery of my Slate we will know for sure if these things are the real deal, but at that point I won't care because I won't be shopping for EVs!

A large number of the doubters are EV owners. They've invested tens of thousands in their current ride, and Donut want to believe new battery tech will render it obsolete.

I'm sure more than a few people who put in a Slate deposit are also taking the Copium. They secretly hope the Donut is a sham coz the first Slates won't get them.

Here's a thought, though. If Donut really did do it, conventional batteries will fall sharply in value. This could give us a cheaper Slate, as current tech is sold at fire-sale prices. Legacy manufacturers will line up to buy a license for it.

Even recognizing all that, I'm still a skeptic. Why merely dribble info when you really have something revolutionary. Just give doubters the full Monty and become very rich very quickly.