The Slate needs a lower price. I know they are not pickups, (most are crossovers/SUVs), but with rebates, % and other deals I can get several other E

[sodamo]

I think you aren't wrong tgpii. It does seem a bit expensive compared to other (used) EVs. A lot of that comes from the wild depreciation for EVs, resale value just takes a nosedive moreso than ICE or other "more established" platforms.

While they advertised it as a cheap vehicle, I don't think the value proposition is there. Why would you get a barebones vehicle when you could get some decent features on an entry level Maverick for the same price?

The first year model for this truck is for enthusiasts or for those that specifically want barebones. Maybe in a few years when they are comfortable with mass production and have learned what works/doesn't they could drop the price.

Yes, why buy a fresh orange when a bruised apple is available.

 

[atx_ev]

The Slate needs a lower price. I know they are not pickups, (most are crossovers/SUVs), but with rebates, % and other deals I can get several other EVs for the same price as the Slate. The other vehicles usually have faster charging, more range, and more standard features. Will someone who works at Slate please respond/contact me? What do others think? I have a deposite on a Slate.

I know they are not trucks, but I can get an ebike for cheaper than the slate.

If a non-truck works for you, then you should buy a non-truck

if a non-ev works for you then buy a non ev.

If you need an ev truck, the slate is the cheapest option.

 

[tgpii]

How can you know this when the price of the Slate hasn't been announced?

Mid 20s?

 

[tgpii]

I know they are not trucks, but I can get an ebike for cheaper than the slate.

If a non-truck works for you, then you should buy a non-truck

if a non-ev works for you then buy a non ev.

If you need a truck, the slate is the cheapest option.

I can get a skateboard cheaper.

 

[AZFox]

Mid 20s?

Again, what are the several 2027 EVs you will be able to get for that, and what are their prices?

I'm calling BS on this, however you have an opportunity to prove me wrong by listing the several EVs and their prices.

 

[KevinRS]

I also am wondering, when people call Slate "Decontented' what critical content is it they are thinking is missing?
The main thing would probably be infotainment?
Lots of us here probably think of that as a plus, as long as BYOD works?

 

[atx_ev]

I also am wondering, when people call Slate "Decontented' what critical content is it they are thinking is missing?
The main thing would probably be infotainment?
Lots of us here probably think of that as a plus, as long as BYOD works?

they constantly mention radio and power windows and the allude to a bunch of other things, but never mention them.

Power windows and a radio will probably be under $350. So maybe the truck is 25350 with power windows and a radio.

the two features they keep mentioning wont necessarily cost that much. Now if you want a replacement infotainment for any car, it is like $2K. And these days you have to use the mfg infotainment because it is tied into all the car systems.

 

[Paul]

Usually when people demand a lower price they would at least provide a list comparable new EV vehicles at the same price with a link for frame grab. Maybe you live in China? You can't really include rebates as a comparison because any manufacturer can throw money at a vehicle and lose money on it if people aren't buying it. Comparing used vehicles to new is apples to oranges.

 

[WT_Door]

How many American auto buyers have a great hunger for a decontented, minimally capable BEV small truck at the price that Slate sets? That's the penultimate Slate question. It's the only question that matters for their survival.

Okay, I give. If that is the penultimate questions - what is the ultimate question?
Is it "Does Scooter wish he hadn't cancelled his reservation"?😁

 

[smack daddy]

I like the Slate enough that the price is a secondary concern (so long as it stays below $30k).

Has to stay below 25 for me 30k I am looking at the new ford electric truck

 

[KevinRS]

Has to stay below 25 for me 30k I am looking at the new ford electric truck

Problem there is nothing to see so far, maybe there will be pictures and details by the time you have to decide on Slate, and then the Ford launches a year after Slate. Of course then you have to deal with dealer markups.

 

[sodamo]

I can get a skateboard cheaper.

Do they have own forum?

 

[beatle]

Yes, why buy a fresh orange when a bruised apple is available.

I don't know why manufacturers even build new cars anymore. They should switch to building used cars.

 

[E90400K]

Do they have own forum?

They had magazines when I was a kid.

 

[E90400K]

The Slate CEO specifically said one of the missions of the Slate was to give used car buyers a new choice. She was very clear about that. Price for the Slate is everything. Not in the first months - rabid fanboys will probably buy up early (very limited) production and it will look like a hit. It's the second year that will tell the tale. Not 2027, but 2028. And Slate has to sell at scale to attract investment, because investors want to see proof.

Automakers don't exist to make cars for you. They exist to make money for investors. You are a means to an end.

But the OP's point is valid. You can get a very high quality used BEV right now for the mid-twenties, and those are feature-loaded vehicles with 7 year batter warranties. Since none of us can read the minds of millions of car buyers, we're just gonna have to wait (until 2028) and see how it goes. The volume of used BEVs is about to explode, as millions of leased BEVs appear on the used market.

Slate's special sauce is not that it is a BEV. It's that it is a cheap, 174" long, two-door pickup truck. That's the only thing that differenteates Slate from other market offerings, expecially if we look forward in time. Fanboys always try to compare today's competition with tomorrow's Slate. We need to be intellectually honest and compare tomorrow's Slate with tomorrow's competition.

It is a perplexing question, the prospective flood of off-lease EVs about to hit the market. I have to believe the majority of those EVs will be Tesla Model 3 and Model Y, since they were the two highest-selling EVs 3 years ago and pre Musk's delve into presidential politics. It will be interesting to see if politics-of-Musk play into the resale of the flood of Tesla's about to hit the market.

IIRC Slate states that 70% of the annual automotive market sale transactions are used vehicles, which is mostly driven by the price point of used cars. That suggests that lower-income folks buy used cars, which I think it follows those same people most likely do not have convenient or affordable access to at-home overnight charging. So that still begs the question that is America's reluctance to EV mostly triggered by the inconvenience and cost of public-grid charging; my honest personal opinion is, it is. Publicly delivered electron fuel costs are more expensive or at least on par with driving an ICEV with a reasonably achievable 25- 35 MPG.

Lastly, is the question of used ICEV vs. used EV for the risk adverse. For me, I do not like buying used cars because of the possibility of getting a vehicle that has been mistreated or not well maintained by the previous owner(s). ICE powertrains are highly reliable if properly used and well cared for, but easily degradable or damaged if not. I think that paradigm is different for EV. From my thinking on that question, are EV drivetrains less susceptible to damage or degradation if abused or not properly taken care of. In essence, is there less risk of buying an off-lease used EV vs. buying a used off-lease ICEV (i.e. at 36,000 miles or less)? And if the risk is less, how does that play into Slate's prospectus that it wants to sell the market a new vehicle at a used-vehicle price.

The obvious implication being buying new is less risk. But if EV are less damageable from mistreatment they should make for a less-risk purchase as a used vehicle. Thus, the perplexity.