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I want to haul stuff, not people. And do it with electrons not oil. That means the only comparibles for me are:

Truck ModelStarting MSRP (Base Trim)*
Rivian R1T$70,990
Ford F150 Lightning$54,780
Chevrolet Silverado EV (commercial)$57,095
GMC Sierra EV$64,495
Tesla Cybertruck$72,235
GMC Hummer EV Pickup$96,550
Slate Truck~$27,500
Wow. Only 1 that is not more than double the Slate price using $27,500 instead of $25,000. I am in the same boat. I will not consider an ICE truck. I already know it is more cost effective to keep driving my Leaf and renting a pick-up when needed than owning an ICE pick-up. When the Slate comes out I will be happy to upgrade from the Leaf to the Slate and no longer need to rent trucks periodically.
 

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Yeah you're right. The Toyota hauls more weight and tows more weight. Refuels in 5 minutes and has no range limitations. It does truck stuff.

And it will last 300,000 miles.
When you refuel it in 5 minutes are you spending 2 figures or 3? When I refuel my vehicles overnight I am spending low 1 figure.
 

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When you refuel it in 5 minutes are you spending 2 figures or 3? When I refuel my vehicles overnight I am spending low 1 figure.
Two digits for the Tacoma, but it has a relatively small capacity.

Recently a receipt printer was broken, so I took a snapshot of the pump How many miles could a Slate Truck drive on $106.33's worth of electrons?

Slate Auto Pickup Truck Expected price now "Mid-Twenties" for Slate truck Dino_Juice_Meter
 

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I’m going to repost a picture I took yesterday.

This is what you can expect with a 25 year old pickup truck with 150k+ miles. This is why you should buy the Slate.

Any questions?

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I'd be worried about all that leaking electricity after a few years. Have you ever seen electricity stains? Oh, boy!
 

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With the way they built stuff nowadays I have a hard time believing it will last that long. Toyota isn't what it used to be.
Sad to say, I agree. I drive a 2006 Tacoma. My significant other is always pressing me to buy a new truck. At 135K, the old girl drives like a new truck, no squeaks or rattles (driven in the Arizona desert exploring monthly btw) and is the most reliable vehicle I have owned in my 65 years on this planet.
I have a hard time believing a new Mexican built Taco can come close to this reliability. I am aggressive with all maintenance and I expect 400K from the old girl.
 

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Sad to say, I agree. I drive a 2006 Tacoma. My significant other is always pressing me to buy a new truck. At 135K, the old girl drives like a new truck, no squeaks or rattles (driven in the Arizona desert exploring monthly btw) and is the most reliable vehicle I have owned in my 65 years on this planet.
I have a hard time believing a new Mexican built Taco can come close to this reliability. I am aggressive with all maintenance and I expect 400K from the old girl.
Never sell, you can only regret it, you'll never say "glad I sold my faithful truck"
 

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Never sell, you can only regret it, you'll never say "glad I sold my faithful truck"
I agree. The thing is, If I like the Slate as much as I think I will, I don't need 2 vehicles. Or, I can justify them by using the Slate M-F and the Taco for serious desert use on weekends.

I think with the weight (maybe??) and range anxiety, using the Slate for weekend desert explorations is not an option at this time.
 

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I agree. The thing is, If I like the Slate as much as I think I will, I don't need 2 vehicles. Or, I can justify them by using the Slate M-F and the Taco for serious desert use on weekends.

I think with the weight (maybe??) and range anxiety, using the Slate for weekend desert explorations is not an option at this time.
Sounds like the perfect use of both! Will help keep miles off the Taco!
 

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it takes zero minutes to fuel the slate because it fuels at night when you are asleep. There is no need to go to the gas station at all.
I agree. The thing is, If I like the Slate as much as I think I will, I don't need 2 vehicles. Or, I can justify them by using the Slate M-F and the Taco for serious desert use on weekends.

I think with the weight (maybe??) and range anxiety, using the Slate for weekend desert explorations is not an option at this time.
I have a 2010 tundra that I love. If the slate makes it Im trying to decide if I want to sell the tundra. The only issue with the tundra is that it is too big to be a daily driver.

my perfect combo is a daily driver truck and a sprinter style EREV that I can use to drive family+friends around town.
 

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On the public network at $0.342 per kW (which is low per the internet average @45-cents kW), I calculate 885 miles. A hybrid Maverick at 33 MPG and $3.17/gal (national average) will go 1,107 miles.
And on my home solar, excess production that is $106.33 that stays in my pocket.
 

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And it can hurt.
innocently walk up to your truch, grab the door handle, and ZAP
Truch?


The word "truch" is not a standard English word. It might be a misspelling, a dialectal term, or a word from a specific context. If you're referring to the word "trust," it means to have confidence in someone or something.
 

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Truch?


The word "truch" is not a standard English word. It might be a misspelling, a dialectal term, or a word from a specific context. If you're referring to the word "trust," it means to have confidence in someone or something.
Got me 😁 and my fingers TRUCK
 

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Good for you, but not good for the average income person who lives in an apartment, doesn't have solar energy and has no access to private overnight L2 charging. Such a person would have to rely on the public charging network, and said person would represent some of the market share Slate is trying to capture with their low-price EV truck. The truck price may be low, but the refueling costs are more than gasoline and the truck is range limited vs. wait-time to recharge.
And how many Maverick Hybrid owners? I’d say my observation is as valid as yours.
 

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Two digits for the Tacoma, but it has a relatively small capacity.

Recently a receipt printer was broken, so I took a snapshot of the pump How many miles could a Slate Truck drive on $106.33's worth of electrons?

Dino_Juice_Meter.jpg
At my current super off peak 11p-7a rate I'd go 4395 miles assuming 2.8 miles/kWh and 5023 miles using 3.2 miles/kWh. C&D had an article early on that showed usable battery sizes less than the normal quoted sizes. If you calculate the efficiency using those usable sizes instead of the gross you get 3.2 instead of 2.8.
 
 
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