Ford Level 3 Eyes-Off Driving to launch on $30K Ford EV Truck

[KevinRS]

Car companies have to cover the batteries for at least 8 years, and they know many customers will charge to 100%. That 80% rule is being found to be much less important than it used to be. The main thing is don't charge on DC fast chargers unnecessarily, and second, don't KEEP it at 100%
So probably set it to charge to 80%, during the hours that your power is cheapest, and charge to 100% if you need that for a trip, just before the trip, don't leave it sitting at 100% through the weekend all the time.

 

[metroshot]

Car companies have to cover the batteries for at least 8 years, and they know many customers will charge to 100%. That 80% rule is being found to be much less important than it used to be. The main thing is don't charge on DC fast chargers unnecessarily, and second, don't KEEP it at 100%
So probably set it to charge to 80%, during the hours that your power is cheapest, and charge to 100% if you need that for a trip, just before the trip, don't leave it sitting at 100% through the weekend all the time.

Yes you are correct.
8 years is typical for HV battery warranties. My BEV has another 5 years left so I am not concerned.
My PHEV has a 10 year, 150,000 mile warranty so I am coming up to that soon.

On DCFC I do tend to charge to 100% when I have the time.

Last night, I had time to "kill" so I shopped at my favorite store while my Ford charged for almost an hour at Tesla Supercharger.

Cheaper to charge to Tesla ($0.47/kWh w/ Tesla driver discount and 3% cash back card) than at home ($0.60 / kWh + costs).

 

[cadblu]

On DCFC I do tend to charge to 100% when I have the time.

Last night, I had time to "kill" so I shopped at my favorite store while my Ford charged for almost an hour at Tesla Supercharger.

Cheaper to charge to Tesla ($0.47/kWh w/ Tesla driver discount and 3% cash back card) than at home ($0.60 / kWh + costs).

Compared to the charging rates I’ve seen in NY, $0.47/kWh is definitely on the high side. But then again you would expect that in CA. The Tesla app makes it easy to shop for the lowest rate. Locations near crowded shopping malls, and more exclusive neighborhoods tend to be the highest, plus peak times and the occupancy level of the charging station factor into the price.

The fact is, price per kWh is at a particular supercharger is dynamic, and I’ve actually selected and navigated to a station at a certain price, and 20 minutes later upon arrival the price dropped by 5 cents per kWh. It could have just as easily gone up by the same amount or more.

The ICE analogy is worth a comparison. How many folks here have used an app like “Gas Buddy” in finding local fueling stations at the lowest price? Then you arrive only to find the price has increased by $0.20 per gallon!

 

[KevinRS]

Yes you are correct.
8 years is typical for HV battery warranties. My BEV has another 5 years left so I am not concerned.
My PHEV has a 10 year, 150,000 mile warranty so I am coming up to that soon.

On DCFC I do tend to charge to 100% when I have the time.

Last night, I had time to "kill" so I shopped at my favorite store while my Ford charged for almost an hour at Tesla Supercharger.

Cheaper to charge to Tesla ($0.47/kWh w/ Tesla driver discount and 3% cash back card) than at home ($0.60 / kWh + costs).

$0.60 per kWh? You really need some solar panels, the payback should be short if your rate is that high.