NFC Phone As A Key

[DT444T]

How would any of this work without an on-board modem? If the Slate doesn't have internet connectivity then how would this function?

 

[MontesDesigns]

How would any of this work without an on-board modem? If the Slate doesn't have internet connectivity then how would this function?

Mobile hotspot or cellular modem can't be hard to install...

 

[KevinRS]

It's been hinted at at fleet events that there will be some kind of connection option for fleet management.
My guess would be an add on module that could be plugged into one of several spots, for fleet purposes maybe a hidden spot, and once that is on the table, no reason it can't be used for consumer applications.

 

[thespacecowboy]

I reached out in January and suggested adding support for Apple’s CarKey standard. I went as far as sending them a link to the spec sheet. As I understand it it doesn’t require adding anything like cellular, and would greatly improve functionality.
Day to day I only carry my phone and a little 3 card magnetic wallet on the back of it. If I could also not carry car keys because they’re on my phone that would be great. My house keys are on my phone, my driver’s license is on there, etc.

 

[tubes]

I prefer minimal but practical features for this. I say let the guy who wants a fob have a fob. If i want wireless entry and remote entry then let me buy that and install it!

I think one thing to keep in mind is that "simple" and "minimalism" are not just about what the consumer buys, it is also about the focus of engineering resources.

Slate has a certain amount of resources available to it in both cash and engineering/design teams. Each significant feature like this ability to have optional wireless entry takes a team of people working on it. Even a "tweak" of the rumored existing fleet option to allow consumer access takes resources.

My guess is that once it is out and stable, hopefully some of these resources will be available to work on such desired options based on demand.

 

[zipn]

Our Ioniq 6 has phone as key using NFT. Near Field Technology, so the signal is local to the phone and once the phone is paired, no app or internet required.

hold a compatible phone on the door handle and it unlocks the car. Put the phone on wireless charge pad and you can start/drive. No need to open an app or press a button. No fob needed.

Near field means VERY near. Turns your phone into a smart key card. (The car also supports an optional $$ smart key card you can buy from Hyundai and use instead of the phone or fob. if that's your thing).

 

[MontesDesigns]

I think one thing to keep in mind is that "simple" and "minimalism" are not just about what the consumer buys, it is also about the focus of engineering resources.

Slate has a certain amount of resources available to it in both cash and engineering/design teams. Each significant feature like this ability to have optional wireless entry takes a team of people working on it. Even a "tweak" of the rumored existing fleet option to allow consumer access takes resources.

My guess is that once it is out and stable, hopefully some of these resources will be available to work on such desired options based on demand.

Oh i totally get that aspect if it but once the time and money is allocated to such idea if everyone (fleet and consumer) ask for it they have to respond, and the best part is I don't have to buy a new car for the new feature I can hopefully buy the addon and install it!

 

[MontesDesigns]

I reached out in January and suggested adding support for Apple’s CarKey standard. I went as far as sending them a link to the spec sheet. As I understand it it doesn’t require adding anything like cellular, and would greatly improve functionality.
Day to day I only carry my phone and a little 3 card magnetic wallet on the back of it. If I could also not carry car keys because they’re on my phone that would be great. My house keys are on my phone, my driver’s license is on there, etc.

Seems like its fairly obtainable. Hopefully they can devote resources to it soon!

 

[cadblu]

I think tech like Apple Car-Key, on board modems, NFC, mobile hotspots, or even ADAS systems start to eventually invade Slate’s marketplace, it may start to diminish the appeal of the Slate.

While I do believe 3rd party suppliers will pursue this route, it will NEVER be officially endorsed by Slate.

 

[MontesDesigns]

If so, they should accommodate the necessary components and or areas for these types of upgrades should someone want to do it as much as reasonably feasible for them. But honestly, even if they dont if I want it ill make it happen ; D

 

[thespacecowboy]

I think tech like Apple Car-Key, on board modems, NFC, mobile hotspots, or even ADAS systems start to eventually invade Slate’s marketplace, it may start to diminish the appeal of the Slate.

While I do believe 3rd party suppliers will pursue this route, it will NEVER be officially endorsed by Slate.

At least for the mobile wallet car keys like Apple CarKey I think they need to from the OEM. Even if it was an additional add-on I could buy after the fact or down the road and add it then, I’d be happy with that.

 

[atx_ev]

yes slate should provide interfaces for all this stuff, but it shouldnt be included. So as an example standard access to the bus so people can create all kinds of stuff to control the car.

Autolocking doors, automatically auto rolling down windows, even comma.ai, remote start etc. should be able to be added later. But slate only has to give access to the things that allow those things to work.