Regen braking non adjustable ? Deal breaker for me.

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Watching this video, I am having doubts about the Slate.



At time mark, 00:59 said no adjustment on regen braking (ie Tesla 1PD).

Slate needs to know that not having a choice between 2PD and 1PD is a mistake.
If your reservation has a time stamp prior to Tue, Apr 29, 2025, 12:02 PM, this is a total deal-breaker and you should probably cancel your reservation now and get your $50 back.

If your reservation is later than that, I don't see that it makes a difference.
 

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Scratching my head over why 1 v 2 pd is a deal breaker. I’ve driven EVs since 2017, 4 and 2 wheel, all have regen and 1p (1T) driving. Personally I prefer 1 pedal driving and consider it a perk of EV vehicles. While all my vehicles have 1 p(t) capabilities they all have brake pedals (levers) too.

Again, it is a personal choice and if Slate only has 1PD with no adjustment and that’s a no go then opt out and do what’s right for you.

(t = throttle for my motorcycle, no pedals on it)
 
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Scratching my head over why 1 v 2 pd is a deal breaker. I’ve driven EVs since 2017, 4 and 2 wheel, all have regen and 1p (1T) driving. Personally I prefer 1 pedal driving and consider it a perk of EV vehicles. While all my vehicles have 1 p(t) capabilities they all have brake pedals (levers) too.

Again, it is a personal choice and if Slate only has 1PD with no adjustment and that’s a no go then opt out and do what’s right for you.

(t = throttle for my motorcycle, no pedals on it)
Remember Jay Leno getting nauseated in the Slate ?

I get nauseated in a Tesla in 1PD while in bumper to bumper traffic.

That's why I hate 1PD.

2PD with coasting & regen like my Mach E is the only way I drive.

Sorry, it's personal decision and very subjective.
 

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Remember Jay Leno getting nauseated in the Slate ?

I get nauseated in a Tesla in 1PD while in bumper to bumper traffic.

That's why I hate 1PD.

2PD with coasting & regen like my Mach E is the only way I drive.

Sorry, it's personal decision and very subjective.
Dude. My buddy has a Model Y with 1PD and he is AWFUL to ride with. He thinks he has to let ALL THE WAY off the pedal to get the brake lights to come on (Which used to be the case, allegedly) but Tesla have updated the software so the brake lights come on earlier in the pedal travel. He was bouncing my head off the seat going from on the pedal to full-off. His roommate has a Model 3 and said he didn't notice it until after I said something to him.

I drove the Y and liked the 1PD, I like it better than having to modulate the brake pedal in my F150 Hybrid. And I assume there's zero chance of activating the service brakes if you're not on the brake pedal at all.
 

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Remember Jay Leno getting nauseated in the Slate ?

I get nauseated in a Tesla in 1PD while in bumper to bumper traffic.
Yeah, if you’re not familiar with driving 1p it takes time. My Lucid is smooth in bumper to bumper traffic with either Hands Free Drive Assist or Adaptive Cruise. The Slate will not have either of those so it’s up to the driver to learn the ins and outs of the regen on the vehicle to avoid nausea in traffic.
 
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With 2PD, can't you just featger the brake so regen kicks in, but not friction?
The issue is when you have to jump on the brakes due to heavy traffic (which I sit in daily).

Regen braking (not friction brakes) is harsh because it lurches forward when you take your foot off the throttle.

If I was driving in non congested, rural areas then I would not need to jump on the brakes.

I always say to naysayers try driving in Los Angeles traffic and see how you would respond to lane jumpers, rude cut off drivers, and sudden stops in bumper to bumper traffic with 1PD.

Even as a pilot, I don't get nauseated with tight spiral turns, steep bank slip/slide up to 2G, stall practice and spin rolls while flying; but a Tesla 1PD will get me nauseated quickly.

No one likes to be nauseated while traveling...
 

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If the Slate has Cruise Control, it will most likely have a 2PD/Coast. That begs the question. Does the Slate have Cruise Control?

Our Mach-E has 1PD and 2PD, as soon as you go into Cruise it switches to 2PD. I think this is more a question of adjustable regen mode(s). We have 3 in the Mach-E (Whisper, Normal, Unbridled). Whisper is recommended for Winter/Snow driving, as too harsh 1PD Regen on Ice could get interesting.
 

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If the Slate has Cruise Control, it will most likely have a 2PD/Coast. That begs the question. Does the Slate have Cruise Control?

Our Mach-E has 1PD and 2PD, as soon as you go into Cruise it switches to 2PD. I think this is more a question of adjustable regen mode(s). We have 3 in the Mach-E (Whisper, Normal, Unbridled). Whisper is recommended for Winter/Snow driving, as too harsh 1PD Regen on Ice could get interesting.
Does Slate have cruise control? Never even thought of that (only that it would not have ACC).
 

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I remember being excited about that because my current car doesn't have it. I have about a 50 minute drive to work, mostly highway and early in the morning with not that many cars. I've always wanted it for that specifically.
 

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The issue is when you have to jump on the brakes due to heavy traffic (which I sit in daily).

Regen braking (not friction brakes) is harsh because it lurches forward when you take your foot off the throttle.

If I was driving in non congested, rural areas then I would not need to jump on the brakes.

I always say to naysayers try driving in Los Angeles traffic and see how you would respond to lane jumpers, rude cut off drivers, and sudden stops in bumper to bumper traffic with 1PD.

Even as a pilot, I don't get nauseated with tight spiral turns, steep bank slip/slide up to 2G, stall practice and spin rolls while flying; but a Tesla 1PD will get me nauseated quickly.

No one likes to be nauseated while traveling...
I wasn't looking at it from that side. I meant that anyone who wants one-pedal could get the same benefit by feathering the brake while coasting or down a hill. Apply enough to invoke regen, but not so much for the friction brakes to kick in.

And please stick to coordinated turns if I'm a passanger. I don't enjoy nausea either :)
 

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I wasn't looking at it from that side. I meant that anyone who wants one-pedal could get the same benefit by feathering the brake while coasting or down a hill. Apply enough to invoke regen, but not so much for the friction brakes to kick in.

And please stick to coordinated turns if I'm a passanger. I don't enjoy nausea either :)
The point of 1pd is not to get regeneration - you get that in 1pd or 2pd mode through brake blending. The point is to get a smoother, more natural driving experience by not having to switch pedals.

The 1pd method would seem simpler and more intuitive if you were learning it from scratch - you push the pedal further down if you want to go faster, and less far if you want to go slower. I find I can modulate my speed much easier with 1pd, and it is always a bit of a bummer when I go back to my 2pd cars.

I do of course hope that it is a setting you can enable or disable - I'm all for choice - but really there is a reason most EV drivers try out 1pd and then stay with it.
 
 
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