So many posts about, will you still buy without EV credit [WARNING: NO POLITICS]

[cvollers]

I think for me, killing the bill pushes me to consider other vehicles a bit more strongly.

1) obviously this gives ICE cars an edge on pricing. The credit helped level the field

but say Im only looking at EVs-

2) this brings the Slate closer in price to other “more speced” EVs. I anticipate my Slate will be ~$32500 msrp, given that I want bigger battery, SUV kit, etc. Maybe more, I’m optimistic.
Most other EVs I’d consider (equinox, MY, R2) are listed at 45k MSRP, give or take.

With the tax credit, the Slate is ~33% cheaper. Without the credit (equally applied to both), the Slate is closer to 25% cheaper. Starts to make me question if the creature comforts or lack thereof are worth the difference.

Just a different way to see the same question!

I don’t need

I think for me, killing the bill pushes me to consider other vehicles a bit more strongly.

1) obviously this gives ICE cars an edge on pricing. The credit helped level the field

but say Im only looking at EVs-

2) this brings the Slate closer in price to other “more speced” EVs. I anticipate my Slate will be ~$32500 msrp, given that I want bigger battery, SUV kit, etc. Maybe more, I’m optimistic.
Most other EVs I’d consider (equinox, MY, R2) are listed at 45k MSRP, give or take.

With the tax credit, the Slate is ~33% cheaper. Without the credit (equally applied to both), the Slate is closer to 25% cheaper. Starts to make me question if the creature comforts or lack thereof are worth the difference.

Just a different way to see the same question!

At close to $35K, a lot of other vehicles start to make sense, including some pretty well-built and well-equipped hybrids.

 

[Letas]

I don’t need

At close to $35K, a lot of other vehicles start to make sense, including some pretty well-built and well-equipped hybrids.

Yep, and that's the question for me regardless of EV credit. Can I make my Slate comfortable enough for ~25k+ miles annually at a price that makes sense? I won't be able to tell until we get pricing.

That's the beauty of consumer choice I guess!

 

[cvollers]

Yep, and that's the question for me regardless of EV credit. Can I make my Slate comfortable enough for ~25k+ miles annually at a price that makes sense? I won't be able to tell until we get pricing.

That's the beauty of consumer choice I guess!

For me, I don’t really need a pickup. I do need a fuel efficient daily/commuter. And I may not be in a situation where home charging is an option.

 

[Letas]

For me, I don’t really need a pickup. I do need a fuel efficient daily/commuter. And I may not be in a situation where home charging is an option.

Same boat! Im grateful that my work has free EV charging, but that is not a guarantee ever. One of the draws for slate for me (and presumably everyone) is the price. I dont feel as bad taking a depreciation hit on a 25k car vs a 50k car, if it turns out not to be suitable.

I will say... the Rivian R2 is enticing, if they can deliver it as promised! (emphasis on the if)

 

[cvollers]

Same boat! Im grateful that my work has free EV charging, but that is not a guarantee ever. One of the draws for slate for me (and presumably everyone) is the price. I dont feel as bad taking a depreciation hit on a 25k car vs a 50k car, if it turns out not to be suitable.

I will say... the Rivian R2 is enticing, if they can deliver it as promised! (emphasis on the if)

I like the R2, and the R3. I’m on the road all day for my sales gig. I don’t mind stopping to charge but I do think I’ll need the overnight charging with a Slate.

 

[sodamo]

What am I missing? Comparables? I don’t see them. Marverick is not EV, other EV’s not a pickup. Already have a hybrid truck. Other EV pickups totally another budget. Telo? Even at $42k I don’t expect to see it available, especial in same timeframe. Even same price as Slate, it’s ugly.
Set my point at $35k. Most likely I have a $2500 trans cost most don’t. Would like the topper (no seat configuration), and possibly larger battery, but could possibly get without either, but again I don’t see a comparable choice.

 

[cvollers]

What am I missing? Comparables? I don’t see them. Marverick is not EV, other EV’s not a pickup. Already have a hybrid truck. Other EV pickups totally another budget. Cello? Even at $42k I don’t expect to see it available, especial in same timeframe. Even same price as Slate, it’s ugly.
Set my point at $35k. Most likely I have a $2500 trans cost most don’t. Would like the topper (no seat configuration), and possibly larger battery, but could possibly get without either, but again I don’t see a comparable choice.

I’m looking at a new Civic Sport Touring for $32K and 50 mpg. Not comparable to a Slate but it checks all my boxes for $30-35K.

 

[PACMAN]

The loss of the tax credit is a bummer for sure, but I still plan to buy the Slate. My Ford Maverick Hybrid is going to my son in a couple of years, and I have been planning on buying a two-door pickup like the old Tacomas for myself, except I really wanted an EV… when Slate came along, I got excited. Wish it had 4x4 and more range, but it’ll do just fine. I plan to get the extended range battery and factory lift, so I’ll probably be closer to 30k, but we’ll see…

 

[metroshot]

I’m looking at a new Civic Sport Touring for $32K and 50 mpg. Not comparable to a Slate but it checks all my boxes for $30-35K.

Since you like Honda products, take a look at the Honda Prologue and Acura ZDX - both are GM Ultium platforms but for a short 2 year lease until Slate starts up, I think I am going to go with them!

Huge $20K price drops makes it very tempting.

 

[Letas]

What am I missing? Comparables? I don’t see them. Marverick is not EV, other EV’s not a pickup. Already have a hybrid truck. Other EV pickups totally another budget. Cello? Even at $42k I don’t expect to see it available, especial in same timeframe. Even same price as Slate, it’s ugly.
Set my point at $35k. Most likely I have a $2500 trans cost most don’t. Would like the topper (no seat configuration), and possibly larger battery, but could possibly get without either, but again I don’t see a comparable choice.

Comparable pound for pound in a fight? No. But comparable for fitting my use cases, yep.

If a pickup is a need for you, yes you’re totally right! Slate just fits my other needs, none of which are being a pickup

 

[sodamo]

Yes, silly me.
When looking to replace wife’s 3 seat SUV, only looked at other 3 seat SUV’s.
When looking to replace my truck, only looked at other trucks.
Dang, after my divorce, I only dated women.
When my Boxer girl Kalani passed, only looked at other Boxers.
Must be getting old.

 

[Letas]

Yes, silly me.
When looking to replace wife’s 3 seat SUV, only looked at other 3 seat SUV’s.
When looking to replace my truck, only looked at other trucks.
Dang, after my divorce, I only dated women.
When my Boxer girl Kalani passed, only looked at other Boxers.
Must be getting old.

Ray of sunshine!

If you want to play that game, then I’m happy to inform you the Slate is actually also an SUV!
So add the solterra, Kona, equinox, etc to the comparable list.

But the fact of the matter is most consumers have multiple cars and styles that fit their needs. Someone who buys a pickup may also have their needs met with a full sized SUV. Someone who buys a sedan can also buy a hatchback.
For some consumers, their needs dictate that only one style is acceptable. For some, they have flexibility. And I think Slate is trying to capture that, not alienate those buyers

 

[sodamo]

Very true
but alluding to the SUV at the Blank Slate price…
and at this point no one knows actual SUV Slate price.

 

[Letas]

Very true
but alluding to the SUV at the Blank Slate price…
and at this point no one knows actual SUV Slate price.

For sure. Nobody knows anything! That’s why I included 32.5 in my post a few up. Just an optimistic guess. Probably wrong. At 35 MSRP for suv kit and extended range battery, the slate runs into stiff competition in the suv category

 

[sodamo]

I think (hope) that is a reasonable expectation as it would make my seatless topper less.