Confirmed: keyless entry, push-to-start, remote climate control & lock/unlock via app

[skidoofast]

That's just crazy. Stuff like that makes the car feel like a car as a service, which I really hope Slate does not get into. If Slate owners want to pay for a hotspot or Sirius, then they should have to buy a Sirius equipped headunit and 5g module separately from a third party.

I agree, I have hotspot on my phone, I have Sirius on my phone, don’t need to purchase another service for those

 

[Luxrage]

^ Agreed, It sounds like most of the trucks functions can be done from the keyfob. I 100% believe they'll need SOME form of app connectivity so they can push updates to the vehicle software (I wouldn't doubt this is something to make the feds happy like when Tesla had to push a software update to make the warning indicators slightly bigger on the dash). I don't need remote start / remote climate control, but I'm sure they second one is more for the battery when charging than us.

I don't see there being a subscription or a required app as that goes against the fleet nature of this truck. Can't imagine they'd have to set up an app for every truck if you have a fleet of ten of these things. Maybe there'll be a fleet manager thing where you can update all of your trucks at once.

Or just give me a USB port on the BMS and I'll update the truck via thumb-stick. Would definitely make it more cyber-security safe than having onboard bluetooth/wifi for a phone connection.

 

[GaRailroader]

Well a key fob is using radio waves and it is good for close range use only. If a car manufacturer is going to provide a smartphone app that will communicate with the car, the car will need to have some sort of wireless connectivity. In the case of Tesla, AT&T is the wireless service provider to the car. When I first bought my 2018 Tesla Model 3, Tesla was paying the AT&T wireless service fees for the car. After a while, they discontinued this practice and the car owner needed to pay for premium connectivity. (it is not required to have premium connectivity, each owner can decide if the connectivity is worth it to them) In the beginning it was $9.99 per month and then they started offering an annual plan of $99 per year. If people are demanding/wanting a smart phone app then the car will need to have some sort of wireless service to the car. I don't think that Slate should have to pay the wireless service fees and not pass them on to the car owner. If an owner wants to use a smart phone app to access their vehicle remotely then they should be paying for that connectivity. It isn't free. Nissan went a different route with their premium connectivity, instead of a wireless service they are trying to use Sirius Satellite service to accomplish the same goal. It was free for the first 3 or 6 months of ownership so I could test it out. It is so bad, I have opted to not pay for the premium connectivity on the Nissan Leaf. On the Tesla Model 3, to me it is worth the $99 per year and we appreciate having that remote connectivity to the car. I don't think the remote connectivity fee should be required, if a buyer doesn't need it then they shouldn't pay for a feature they don't need or want.

 

[metroshot]

Well a key fob is using radio waves and it is good for close range use only. If a car manufacturer is going to provide a smartphone app that will communicate with the car, the car will need to have some sort of wireless connectivity. In the case of Tesla, AT&T is the wireless service provider to the car. When I first bought my 2018 Tesla Model 3, Tesla was paying the AT&T wireless service fees for the car. After a while, they discontinued this practice and the car owner needed to pay for premium connectivity. (it is not required to have premium connectivity, each owner can decide if the connectivity is worth it to them) In the beginning it was $9.99 per month and then they started offering an annual plan of $99 per year. If people are demanding/wanting a smart phone app then the car will need to have some sort of wireless service to the car. I don't think that Slate should have to pay the wireless service fees and not pass them on to the car owner. If an owner wants to use a smart phone app to access their vehicle remotely then they should be paying for that connectivity. It isn't free. Nissan went a different route with their premium connectivity, instead of a wireless service they are trying to use Sirius Satellite service to accomplish the same goal. It was free for the first 3 or 6 months of ownership so I could test it out. It is so bad, I have opted to not pay for the premium connectivity on the Nissan Leaf. On the Tesla Model 3, to me it is worth the $99 per year and we appreciate having that remote connectivity to the car. I don't think the remote connectivity fee should be required, if a buyer doesn't need it then they shouldn't pay for a feature they don't need or want.

Be careful with the RF key fobs these days, as thieves here locally have found a device to mimic your key by "cloning" yours if it's nearby or else rolling a sequence of digital RF keys to unlock and steal your car.

Happened so many times at our local Pasadena, CA archery and fly fishing club locations.

Regarding OTA updates with Ford:
Uses home/work unsecured WiFi to the download packages to the car.
Then my EV gets installation instructions via AT&T.
AT&T is connection is used to autheniticate, install and get a checksum after installation.
This prevents hacked installation packages.

I'm sure most of us would not appreciate getting our cars hacked OTA....

 

[E90400K]

Here's an idea. How about using just a metal key... The vehicle then will have matching manual roll up windows. Just saying.

 

[Garbone]

Our 21 Ford is past its 3 year 36. The Ford native navigation always kinda sucked so do not miss it being non functional since Google maps does the job. Paying nothing and the remote AC start, locks an charging management work fine.

 

[metroshot]

Our 21 Ford is past its 3 year 36. The Ford native navigation always kinda sucked so do not miss it being non functional since Google maps does the job. Paying nothing and the remote AC start, locks an charging management work fine.

Did your '21 get the 10.2.0 OTA update for the locking fast charger feature ?

 

[Garbone]

Did your '21 get the 10.2.0 OTA update for the locking fast charger feature ?

No idea, that is the wifes car, as in I got it and she liked it so much I had to get my own. I would go check but she keeps her seat so far forward I really do not like messing with it.