Could Slate compete with a Toyota Stout 2 door?

[cvollers]

Hmmm. Slate. Stout. Scout. What next?

Steak, it’s what’s for dinner.

 

[cvollers]

If they make it, that certainly isn’t what it’s going to look like.

 

[sodamo]

pretty cool looking

my concerns
Price - Base and after dealer markup
customizable
I want basic stripped down
EV, I want an EV, I'll keep my F150 for pulling and longer drives

Ditto

 

[SichuanHot]

I'll believe it once I see it at a dealership listed for sale.

 

[Just some guy]

Definitely sticking with Slate. Those other companies had time to make these trucks avaliable to us all this time but decided not to so I won't reward them for making us wait. Even if it ends up like the yugo Im sticking with it.

 

[Firstrax]

Speaking of Stout, there is an instagram page when a woman is building a 1964 Stout. Rolling and forming all the body panels and even scratch built A-arms.
Worth a follow if you're into that.
https://www.instagram.com/six_four_stout/

 

[RevCaptJack]

I've seen some discussions about Toyota bringing back a small truck called the Stout. It's likely to happen in a 4 door version.

I've also seen discussions that Toyota may go Retro and produce a 2 door version as well. Even found this rendering.

What's your opinion? If Toyota produces a 2 door Stout, which would you choose, Stout or Slate.

The Toyota probably isn’t electric. So, apples and oranges. I’ll go with the Slate.

 

[bartflossom]

I've tried to buy two toyotas in the past 2 years. Never again. Worst dealerships ever.

 

[ScooterAsheville]

20 years ago I was at a Boston area Toyota dealership. The immigrant salesperson refused to give me back my car keys (appraisal) when I decided I wasn't interested in buying. After 15 minutes of that, I stood up in the middle of all the sales floor and started roaring at the top of my lungs, "GIVE ME BACK MY CAR KEYS, ASSHOLES". Needless to say every head on every customer in the dealerships swiveled my way.

It took like 15 seconds for the dealership manager to run over with my keys and escort me out the door as fast as humanly possible without blows. Never stepped foot in a Toyota dealership again. Now that's irrational on my part, but that's how humans can respond. OEMs have no clue how bad dealerships can lose the brand a customer literally forever.

BTW, you see this syndrome over on the Maverick forum. Early on, a lot of bad hybrid experiences (three month repairs, dealer overcharges, bait and switch, bad cvt, bad batteries, etc) led to a lot of bad blood. People who had those bad experiences swore off Ford forever. You also see it on the Santa Cruz forum, only there it was cvt transmissions.

One bad experience with a brand, that person is GONE.

 

[cvollers]

20 years ago I was at a Boston area Toyota dealership. The immigrant salesperson refused to give me back my car keys (appraisal) when I decided I wasn't interested in buying. After 15 minutes of that, I stood up in the middle of all the sales floor and started roaring at the top of my lungs, "GIVE ME BACK MY CAR KEYS, ASSHOLES". Needless to say every head on every customer in the dealerships swiveled my way.

It took like 15 seconds for the dealership manager to run over with my keys and escort me out the door as fast as humanly possible without blows. Never stepped foot in a Toyota dealership again. Now that's irrational on my part, but that's how humans can respond. OEMs have no clue how bad dealerships can lose the brand a customer literally forever.

BTW, you see this syndrome over on the Maverick forum. Early on, a lot of bad hybrid experiences (three month repairs, dealer overcharges, bait and switch, bad cvt, bad batteries, etc) led to a lot of bad blood. People who had those bad experiences swore off Ford forever. You also see it on the Santa Cruz forum, only there it was cvt transmissions.

One bad experience with a brand, that person is GONE.

My local Toyota dealership used to be infamous for accosting visitors before they reached the front door. Fortunately, that policy has since stopped. Would I buy a new Toyota there? Probably not as my next vehicle most likely will be a Civic Hatchback Sport Touring Hybrid…I don’t have access to a home charger for a Slate.

 

[cvollers]

Slate. 1) I don’t want or need a full time pickup truck. The Slate Cargo with a custom wrap for my business is my preferred mode, 2) I like the Slate’s simplicity and price, 3) an EV is lower cost to run and maintain as a commuter, 4) I don’t care about towing, 5) I only have one other human to transport, and 6) I want that frunk with the cup holders.

Since posting this, my vehicle needs have changed quite a bit. I don’t need a cargo van. I don’t need a business wrap. I can’t charge at home. But I still need good quality, good fuel economy, and fun to drive performance. Sorry Slate. I still think you are an awesome concept and potentially a great EV. Just no longer a great fit for me.

 

[E90400K]

Since posting this, my vehicle needs have changed quite a bit. I don’t need a cargo van. I don’t need a business wrap. I can’t charge at home. But I still need good quality, good fuel economy, and fun to drive performance. Sorry Slate. I still think you are an awesome concept and potentially a great EV. Just no longer a great fit for me.

Go look at the Nissan Frontier King Cab. 6-foot bed on a 210-inch body. 3.8L V6 with no turbo! 310 HP and 21 MPG. Hard not to consider one if you can't charge an EV at home. My 2 cents.

 

[Trace26]

If slate didn't exist I'd probably buy a "Maverick" made by Toyota. But Slate showed up and is literally everything I've been wanting.
Well other than a 1.5' longer bed and a bench seat. But beggers can't be choosers.

 

[Dorbiman]

Go look at the Nissan Frontier King Cab. 6-foot bed on a 210-inch body. 3.8L V6 with no turbo! 310 HP and 21 MPG. Hard not to consider one if you can't charge an EV at home. My 2 cents.

21 MPG is nothing to brag about imo.

 

[E90400K]

21 MPG is nothing to brag about imo.

Neither is sitting at a public charger to regain 90 miles in 30 minutes at basically the same cost per mile as gasoline. It's embarrassing and degrading.

Cvollers said he can't charge at home but still wants a less-than-full-size, single cab pickup, which I read as him not wanting an EV pickup, so I suggested what I see as the best ICEV pickup alternative. 21 MPG for a 310 HP non-turbo 3.8L V6 is actually pretty good within the class of midsized SUV/pickups.

The Frontier 4x2 long bed has a 21 gallon tank, so it recharges approximately 420 miles in 5 minutes vs. the Slate at 90 miles in 30 minutes, which pretty much sucks IMO.