It looks like SLATE has pathetic EV efficiency. (and a rant).

cvollers

Well-Known Member
First Name
Chip
Joined
Apr 25, 2025
Threads
9
Messages
586
Reaction score
622
Location
Bellevue WA
Vehicles
FJ Cruiser
Note that the bed is integrated to the cab. In a frame truck the bed is attached to the frame and then there is about an inch gap between the bed and the cab which is also attached to the frame.

PJ
The Scout Terra is body on frame with the bed integrated into the cab (I think). There is a vertical reveal in the bodywork that makes the bed look like it is separate.
 

AZFox

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 29, 2025
Threads
6
Messages
191
Reaction score
247
Location
Arizona
Vehicles
Honda NC700X
The De Dion in the Slate is a solid rear axle. But not a live rear axle in the sense that it drives the wheels.
I stand corrected. I saw"solid axle" as traditional solid axle.

Does it need to have a solid rear axle to be a truck?
Definitely not. If so, the Slate Truck isn't a truck qualifies.​

FTFY 😀
 

Paul Rodgers

New Member
First Name
Paul
Joined
Jun 25, 2025
Threads
0
Messages
2
Reaction score
2
Location
32926
Vehicles
Tacoma
We recently sold our 23 Bolt EUV. The included battery is a lithium-ion battery with a capacity of 66 kWh rated 259 miles on a single charge. In real-word use around town we prob ably averaged about 4.2 miles/kWh.
66 * 4.2 = 277 miles possible range. FWIW We loved the EUV (daughter still has a BOLT EV), just wife no longer driving and I had an opportunity to sell it for damn near what I pair for it, thinking we'll replace it in a few years with another commuter EV to save to wear and tear on our new Maverick. Nothing wrong with the BOLT's efficiency, but the Slate...

The Slate's smaller battery is rated 52.7 kWh with an expected range of 150 miles. 150 miles / 52.7 ... That's the same as ~2.8 miles/kWh. That absolutely SUCKs. The larger battery pack is about the same @ 2.9 miles/kWh

My only explanation is that SLATE is maybe low-balling the number (or they are just crap at designing an EV). If the real efficiency of the EV is less than 3 miles/kWh, then that puts the SLATE towards hummer EV territory. You would think that the smaller, lighter battery and the plastic body panels with give the SLATE an efficiency boost and would be able to do at least as good, if not a bit better than a nearly 10-year old designed Chevy Bolt. Even weirder is the larger, heavier SLATE pack gets slightly better miles/kWh?

Honestly if the real world EV numbers aren't at least ~4 mile/kWh I'll probably get my $50 back and get a Kia EV / Hynudai EV. There's no excuse for a commuter EV designed in 2025 to get crappy EV Efficiency. WTF Slate?

/rant ON
ALL EVs should have a miles/kWh rating standard. The mpgE rating is confusing at best. In addition, the time to charge to 80% or 100% is absolute BS. The charge time to full is based on the SIZE of the battery! Bigger batteries take longer to charge. A better way of comparing charge time is to simply take the average power delivered (charges at 50KW, charges at 150kW... etc). The industry seems to like the smoke and mirrors approach in promoting vehicle specs and it ticks me off. Miles/kWh is the first thing I look at.
/rant OFF
agree about the rating requirement, but I read it the other way around. How many watt-hours to go 1 mile? My Arcimoto (wierd electric 3-wheeler) is a bit over 200, so a KwH takes it about 4-miles-ish, half that at 80mph.

I think some smart folk can get a 4-wheel, 2-door sedan into that region, about 5 miles/kwH-ish
But not a truck, its 3 boxes with extra added drag! Take the same frame, put a slick body on there and it'll go twice the distance.

I dont buy a truck for efficiency, its all about utility, try putting a bale of hay and a half yard of horse manure in the back of your Bolt. It'll fit! but no-one will ever want to ride in it again!

BTW, a friend has an older leaf (2014), still runs fine, absolutely great little car, just needs more range. She keeps it super-clean, only "nasties" are her dogs. Not at all like my Tacoma which carries a world of !@#$ on its shoulders.
 
 
Top