Slate Price Annoucement Date! "Mid-twenties in late June" -- says Slate

[E90400K]

I would pay 30K for a blank slate.

I would also pay 30K for the lowest model of the ford truck. Even with those sloping renders. If the slate was 25 and the ford was 30, I would get the slate. If they were both 30K I might get the ford if it had more range or AWD. If those two specs were the same, Id get the slate.

I dont care about looks at all.

Im not a fan of giant wheels and thin tires. I much prefer smaller wheels with more rubber. But that can add rolling resistance. I want enough rubber that I can scrape curbs. I also want more ride height.

My situation is I have two cars, a pickup truck, and an ORV SUV. Only my pickup is 4-doors. I really don't need a 4-door, but it is nice to have one in the fleet. The Slate will replace the pickup. Now that the Ford UEV Skunkworks Truck will be on the market for (hopefully) $30K, it's going to be a more difficult decision. $5,000 adds about $100 to the monthly.

 

[Letas]

Regarding the subject of pricing, I’m kind of surprised this hasn’t yet been mentioned.

Do we believe Slate will offer discounts for:

• Military veterans, including retirees, active-duty members, their spouses, surviving spouses
• First responders
• Medical providers
• Nurses
• Students
• Teachers

Being a US-based entity my opinion is that Slate should, as a minimum, offer discounts to military veterans as a thank you for their service. Other categories, especially students, would fit well with Slate’s appeal to young college graduates.

And how about a “senior discount” - for all those contemporary seniors the Slate is targeted for. 🙂

Eagerly awaiting the formal pricing announcement in June. Maybe the snow will be melted by then.

On the topic of senior discounts, what if Slate does the opposite? Seniors just got a new ~$6000 tax deduction, why not raise the price of the Slate by as much for those 65+ to help subsidize price for those who do not qualify?

 

[1yeliab_sufur1]

My situation is I have two cars, a pickup truck, and an ORV SUV. Only my pickup is 4-doors. I really don't need a 4-door, but it is nice to have one in the fleet. The Slate will replace the pickup. Now that the Ford UEV Skunkworks Truck will be on the market for (hopefully) $30K, it's going to be a more difficult decision. $5,000 adds about $100 to the monthly.

yes but remember 30,000 msrp is not the price gotta account for dealers and up-charge id say if you could get a good deal would be 33,000 after everything fees and registration for the ford i still believe the slate will be cheaper but it will then depend on what you need it for but same could be said about slate minus the dealer fee

 

[AZFox]

my daughter is going to purdue, so Ill pick it up from the factory on a visit.

They've specifically said that there will be no factory delivery program, at least in the beginning.

• https://www.slateforums.com/forum/threads/factory-delivery-option.13421/
• https://www.slateforums.com/forum/t...deration-would-take-place-in-this-room.13468/
• https://www.slateforums.com/forum/t...uck-at-the-factory-instead-of-delivery.14170/

 

[KevinRS]

We all can make educated guesses on what the real price will be. But I'll say, we all know the original sales price was $7,500 less than what it will be. So, if anyone is still in with a $7,500 price increase and still sees value of a stripped EV with 2-doors, a few thousand +/- $25K shouldn't be much a factor in the decision making.

For me, the mysterious Ford UEV Skunkworks Truck that is now supposed to arrive at the same time as Slate will be in real production complicates the decision greatly. While I'd like to not have all the tech Ford says will be in the UEV, I know FoMoCo will be around in 10 years, Slate we can only hope.

When was it stated that the Ford will be around the same time?
It's been announced that they will begin production in 2027, for a 2028 model year.
That puts it around 12 months behind Slate, and we know far less about the Ford than the Slate.
Slate was announced in April, 10 months ago, and is somewhere around 10 months from delivery now. The Ford we don't even know the name or shape of is still 22 months out, according to Ford.

On the supposed price increase, that's on one person, and they aren't at Slate,
I wasn't going to get the $7500 anyway, my income is low enough, and I put enough into retirement each year that my income taxes are minimal. You need to make $75k a year and have no deductions, no retirement contributions, etc to get the full 7500, and if you make $150k, it went to zero.
The math works out differently if married filing jointly, but still, many would find they only get a portion of the $7500.

 

[E90400K]

When was it stated that the Ford will be around the same time?
It's been announced that they will begin production in 2027, for a 2028 model year.
That puts it around 12 months behind Slate, and we know far less about the Ford than the Slate.
Slate was announced in April, 10 months ago, and is somewhere around 10 months from delivery now. The Ford we don't even know the name or shape of is still 22 months out, according to Ford.

On the supposed price increase, that's on one person, and they aren't at Slate,
I wasn't going to get the $7500 anyway, my income is low enough, and I put enough into retirement each year that my income taxes are minimal. You need to make $75k a year and have no deductions, no retirement contributions, etc to get the full 7500, and if you make $150k, it went to zero.
The math works out differently if married filing jointly, but still, many would find they only get a portion of the $7500.

I've showed you at least twice if not three times that you are incorrect about the tax liability issue. The lower income tax burden went away with the reinstatement of the EV tax credit under the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022. The tax rebate was allowable to be applied at the time of purchase if the buyer wanted to take full advantage of the $7,500 credit.

Regarding 2027, from a Wards Automotive article:

"The new affordable Ford BEV truck, set to go on sale in 2027 in the U.S., is a development of Ford’s three-year-old Skunk Works team in Long Beach, California, which has been working somewhat in secret to undo the old ways of designing, engineering and manufacturing a vehicle."

https://www.wardsauto.com/news/archive-auto-ford-model-t-moment-new-battery-electric-truck/757414/

My takeaway from that statement is Ford's Skunkworks has pretty much the same mission statement as Slate and started about the same time (3 years ago). Ford has billions of funding at hand to fund a similar mission and has an automobile manufacturing facility already standing that is already fully staffed with manufacturing professionals to execute said mission statement.

On top of that, Ford has been building EV for more than a decade and has an established EV supplier base and established manufacturing equipment supplier base. And Ford has a seasoned procurement department already in place to utilize its established supplier bases.

Slate is starting from scratch... with just $700M...

 

[ZuliMuli]

Let's not forget the Maverick was cheap ( and god will people not stop preaching that point), till it got to a dealership that added all types of dealer markups, upcharges, ect. The Slate won't have any of that beyond the delivery fee, it won't turn into a $35-40k truck by itself.

 

[GaRailroader]

The lower income tax burden went away with the reinstatement of the EV tax credit under the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022. The tax rebate was allowable to be applied at the time of purchase if the buyer wanted to take full advantage of the $7,500 credit.

This is astonishing that Congress approved such a misguided tax credit. I am thankful it got killed. So people that perhaps had a $5k tax burden were able to collect the full $7500 and so had a negative tax burden while folks that had a $75k federal tax burden were denied the ability to buy the same EV for the same price.

 

[E90400K]

This is astonishing that Congress approved such a misguided tax credit. I am thankful it got killed. So people that perhaps had a $5k tax burden were able to collect the full $7500 and so had a negative tax burden while folks that had a $75k federal tax burden were denied the ability to buy the same EV for the same price.

I've always seen the tax credit as a crutch that prevents manufacturers from doing some really good engineering in design, chemistry, and production processes, to get EV on par with ICEV on a MSRP cost-basis. When there is a $10K gap in MSRP between an EV and ICEV, that $10K buys some 70,000 miles of fuel, including EV's maintenance advantage. Add in the inconvenience of enroute charging and trip planning (or for consumers who can't charge at home) and for a lot of the market EV are just not a justifiable purchase.

 

[WT_Door]

Anything over 25k I will be getting my refund back and put it on the ford ev I will get a lot more for the same price

You may as well ask for the deposit back now - the Slate will not be offered at $25k.
At least not initially - if it flops then maybe they will - but will you want it?
The Ford UEV will not be " the same price". "About $30,000" is more than the base Blank Slate (" mid twenties"). I fully expect $27,500 (in my view this is above mid-twenties, but it is what I expect). But even that is $2.5k less than the Ford UEV.
Whether this is a better value is based on what counts to you - $, range, dual motor/AWD vs single motor/RWD, acceleration, dealership involvement/support, infotainment system, power windows, am/fm radio from the factory. For me - I still like the Slate's value proposition better, but I will watch what Ford is doing.

 

[WT_Door]

True also potentially the rivian r3 and r3x could go into production at tge end of the year as well says some sources guesses on them are around 30k-35k may not be a truck but it is similar priced if tat number is to true and I am hoping the slate is about 24k for the base model but they still could pull a fast one and make it cheaper or higher but I think 24k is still very reasonable 23.5k is better and 25.5 seems a stretch looking at financing charts

I've not seen anything from Rivian saying any model of R3 will go into production in 2026. I have seen 2028 several times - and it will be built on the platform used for the R2, at the (still uncompleted) factory Rivian is building in Georgia.
My guess is the base Blank Slate will be $27,499.

 

[WT_Door]

This happens on every forum for a vehicle that hasn't had pricing released: Tesla, Rivian, Slate, just to name a few. Even the Lightning forum was abuzz with pricing discussions even after pricing annoucements because dealers still had the option to mark them up. I don't see the problem with people speculating and discussing the price. It's very important, especially for a vehicle where for most people, its primary selling point is its price.

I note that pricing on the Rivian R2 is expected on March 12. The company has said deliveries will start in June (I have heard one YouTube claim early deliveries starting April). So pricing will be announced 3 months before deliveries - that makes Slate look premature in announcing in June (I'm assuming Dec deliveries - maybe they'll start earlier)

 

[KevinRS]

I've showed you at least twice if not three times that you are incorrect about the tax liability issue. The lower income tax burden went away with the reinstatement of the EV tax credit under the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022. The tax rebate was allowable to be applied at the time of purchase if the buyer wanted to take full advantage of the $7,500 credit.

I finally found the pages on the IRS site that referred to this, and yes, it was transferrable, though the upper income limits did still apply, and the IRS would charge the buyer to recover the credit if their AGI was too high to qualify(over 150k single, 300k married). Those income limits were part of the changes as well.
The initial setup before that change was a factor in encouraging manufacturers to target EVs, the ones they built at scale anyway, for the luxury market who had that income and tax liability level. Maybe it's not surprising that it seems multiple companies started developing lower cost EVs behind the scenes around 3 years ago, when those changes happened?

 

[1yeliab_sufur1]

I've not seen anything from Rivian saying any model of R3 will go into production in 2026. I have seen 2028 several times - and it will be built on the platform used for the R2, at the (still uncompleted) factory Rivian is building in Georgia.
My guess is the base Blank Slate will be $27,499.

i was watching older videos around the release and i have caught up now some say mid 2027 to early 2028 now so we will see and i don't believe it will be that high for that is out of the mid- 20's range